wish list: separate sections for meta title, description and keywords

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stevegos

wish list: separate sections for meta title, description and keywords

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Hi

It would be great if there was a separate section on each edit content page for meta title, descripton and keywords.

I know there is the page specific meta section on the options page but you have enter the full code as well as the content.

And you can also add a one line content block into the template, but these are kind of work arounds for something that seems so basic and critical to a successful web site.

So hoping that this can be added soon.

Thanks for such a great and flexible cms.

Steve
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Re: wish list: separate sections for meta title, description and keywords

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Well, there are already plugins and fields when editing content for the title, and the description.

As far as keywords.... given the fact that google, yahoo and most major search engines don't give them ANY credence what-so-ever (I spent an hour researching this)... I don't see it is a big priority, especially considering that there is already a well working solution for those people who still religiously think that the meta-keyword stuff is important to their search engine rankings.

So, if you religiously put keywords into your pages in the beliefe that they still have merit, the methodology is there in CMSMS for you to do so.  However since none of the search engines are looking at them any more, and it's purely a religious argument at this point... I would say it is a very LOW item on our list of things to do.
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Re: wish list: separate sections for meta title, description and keywords

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You do have a few options. You can either create new Content blocks for each item and then call it in your template. I had a client that requested to modify only some of their page titles so I used the "Extra3" field for this and then used this syntax in the template. You could also modify the syntax to include the description and keywords

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{page_attr key="extra3" assign="extraParam"}
<title>{if $extraParam != "" }{sitename} - {$extraParam}{else}{sitename} - {title}{/if}</title>
I have noticed as well in research that the major Search Engines don't pay as much attention to the description and keywords anymore because of abuse/spamming. But it is still a good practice to include it I suppose.
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Re: wish list: separate sections for meta title, description and keywords

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I agree the keywords are not used by the major engines, but here in the UK, the major engines make up about 85% of searches.  I know that some of the smaller engines still use the keywords, so the question is, why turn away 15% of potential customers by ignoring them?

The description and title I feel is crucial. My understanding is (and I perform successful seo on many many sites) that the meta description gives you a chance to manage the description you want people to see rather than the... one that... google sometimes makes... up separated by... ellipses.

Having demo'd around 10 open source cms' CMSMS is just about the only one I found not to have specific fields for these entries.

Why use CMSMS then? Well in all nearly all other factors, its the best.

Anyway, the merits of keywords was not the point of my original suggestion and judging by the other similar requests (and the number of people reading the post), I'm not the only user to think this would be a great idea.

Steve
Last edited by stevegos on Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: wish list: separate sections for meta title, description and keywords

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Even if the keywords are ignored by google, I dislike the idea of ignoring standards because of googles behaviour. Nevertheless a better way of managing "meta description" would be great.
I did not find an easy way to give each page an individual description and would be happy to see it in CMSMS.
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Re: wish list: separate sections for meta title, description and keywords

Post by tyman00 »

I am not sure how much easier my example could get. You could even create additional, one line or no WYSIWYG content areas to input this information.

If we keep adding and adding to the admin area becomes bloated and confusing taking away from the main goal of the project.
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