Cart Made Simple, Shop Made Simple, Payment Made Simple

[cb2004]

Whats the plan for these mods? Can we see feature lists, help test, contribute? Whats the difference between Shop and Cart?

[milehigh]

I second cb2004 to offer to help to develop, test, contribute etc.

[viebig]

I´m a php developer, seo and ecommerce consultant, offering my help

[cb2004]

Here we go. Lets get this show on the road.

[calguy1000]

My discussion with (one of the) developers of this module indicated that it is not yet ready for prime time, or not near ready.  Though the admin side of one of the modules is written, the frontend is not... and it may take some time before it happens. 

However, another project is underway devided into a number of modules:

Products
  - manages products
  - supports attributes with price adjustments for products
  - supports up to 2 images per product
  - tracks weight
  - supports two simple taxes  (this will change soon)
  - In development:
    - Will support a single addon 'tax module' to calculate taxes on products.

Cart
  - Supports 'add to cart' with quantities, and reads the product attributes for products.
  - Supports viewing the cart, calculates taxes, and shipping costs displays subtotals and totals
  - Supports a single addon 'shipping module'
  - In development
      - Will support the 'tax module' selected in the products module
     
FlatRateShipping
  - Supports a single shipping rate based on weight

Orders
  - Currently only emails the client and the administrator of the order
  - In development:
      - Order storage, and management
      - Payment gateways as addon modules?

All modules are completely template controlled, and depend on the CGExtensions module.  To set this up you will need at least 4 modules, and potentially 7 or more, each will need to be configured individually.

This new set of modules will probably be released under the GPL, but support (other than bug fixes) and enhancements will most likely require some sort of payment mechanism yet to be determined.

[Duketown]

Hi,

I'm one of the developers on Shop Made Simple that calguy1000 is refering to. I'm not the starter of the module, that is Lahuindai. He has the roadmap in his mind, but a major part can be found on http://nobrain.co.nz/sms/doku.php[edit]Sorry, this webpage no longer exists as of april 2008 [/edit].
In short notes it means that the module SMS will contain:
. Multilevel categories
. On each category, multiple products
. Per product, multiple attributes
. Per product, unlimited pictures
. Shop handles one currency at start only
. No tax possible in firts release(s)

Cart Made Simple and Payment Made Simple currently exist only on the design table.

Templates used will be database driven with an example prepared during installation of the module(s).
Currently there is no dependency on an existing module!

I've requested Lahuindai to react to this thread, so he might state some more mindthoughts.

For what I know, the modules will be available under GPL.

It is very nice to read of cb2004/viebig/milehigh that you offer you support. Please send an PM to Lahuindai and state that you want to help (copy me in please).

Duketown

[edit]PS. modules released as of April 19th. See:

• CartMS: http://dev.cmsmadesimple.org/projects/cartms
• ShopMS: http://dev.cmsmadesimple.org/projects/sms

[/edit]

[Lahuindai]

Hello All,

To lay out the basic structure of the 3 projects

ShopMadeSimple
- Categories
- Products
- Shop Properties
- Templates

CartMadeSimple
- Hold Items
- Tax / Vat
- Shipping
- Templates
- Orders

PaymentMadeSimple
- Payment System

All systems communicate using events in cmsms and all templates will be in the database. The reason for seperation is that you could in effect replace any part of the system with your own, as long as you subscribe to the events.

As for specific features, they are much the same as what calguy2000 and them has on the list with images on products being unlimited as per duke's comment.

Any people that wish to join the project, please contact me, i'll try to dump the rest of my thoughts to the wiki on

http://www.nobrain.co.nz/sms

and see about assigning tasks to people so we can finish this project and get a release out.

Lahuindai (Gary)

[calguy1000]

I for one, am in favor of having multiple solutions to the ecommerce problem within CMS Made simple.  Each solution may have its advantages and disadvantages, depending upon the situation at hand, and therefore different solutions will suit different problems better.

Keep up the good work guys.... and maybe down the road, we can cooperate a bit, and share some code without having to worry about 'competing'.

[Lahuindai]

I agree with Calguy2000, this is one instance where multiple solutions is viable, personally i'm in the camp of anything but oscommerce

[calguy1000]

I agree... zencart is (marginally) better, but still extereme overkill for the guy trying to sell a dozen products through paypal.

[calguy1000]

if I can add some more comment to my above post.

The goal here is not to replace oscommerce, or zencart, or X shopping cart package, but to provide a good 'middle of the road' e-commerce solution for CMS Made Simple.... it should be flexible enough to handle most of the needs of a 'small-ish' e-commerce site, but is by no means intended to replace the packages that are intended for e-commerce and e-commerce only.

God knows if I was potentially selling thousands of products with hundreds of variants and wanted sales, and e-marketing, and point systems for customers, and this, and that, and the other thing I would instantaneously look at one of these products or some other product meant for building an e-commerce website.

We're not doing that.  We're building some utilities that will allow some websites to be built to sell some products, as well as serve content, and all the other things that CMS Made simple is capable of doing. 

Again, we're aiming for a 'middle of the road' approach.... we can not, and will not be everything to everybody.... and we're not designing this system to compete with amazon.com so don't even ask.

[cb2004]

if I can add some more comment to my above post.

The goal here is not to replace oscommerce, or zencart, or X shopping cart package, but to provide a good 'middle of the road' e-commerce solution for CMS Made Simple.... it should be flexible enough to handle most of the needs of a 'small-ish' e-commerce site, but is by no means intended to replace the packages that are intended for e-commerce and e-commerce only.

God knows if I was potentially selling thousands of products with hundreds of variants and wanted sales, and e-marketing, and point systems for customers, and this, and that, and the other thing I would instantaneously look at one of these products or some other product meant for building an e-commerce website.

We're not doing that.  We're building some utilities that will allow some websites to be built to sell some products, as well as serve content, and all the other things that CMS Made simple is capable of doing. 

Again, we're aiming for a 'middle of the road' approach.... we can not, and will not be everything to everybody.... and we're not designing this system to compete with amazon.com so don't even ask.

Totally agree. I use CubeCart if I need a full commerce solutions.

[cb2004]

Can we just get one thing straight please guys. Calguy are you helping on this project or creating your own module?

[calguy1000]

Lahundai and duketown are working on CartMadeSimple, ShopMadeSimple, and PaymentMadeSimple.

I'm working on an alternate project.

[cb2004]

I see.

Any SVN for your mod Calguy? I love all the mods you make.