gForge replacement suggestion

[Guizmo]

PHP scripts which are less complicated and more little than gforge if this one is too overkill :

- Sitellite forge  http://www.sitelliteforge.com/index/sit ... .siteforge
- Savane https://gna.org/projects/savane

[Guizmo]

...or java brothers which may be less complicated and need less requirement than gforge :

- Collabnet http://www.collab.net/products/enterprise_edition/
- Codebeamer http://www.intland.com/products/codebea ... =javaforge

[Ted]

Actually, I'm in the process of writing my own stripped down gforge replacement as we speak using Ruby on Rails.  We basically need about 1/4 of the functionality and at some point we're going to need some custom functionality down the road (I want a built-in translation center and facilities to deploy modules).

Though, it is pretty interesting that these all exist.  I'm surprised there are so many...  I've only ever heard of gforge.

[Guizmo]

Well, if a resources reference center can be useful for you, here is where i classify relevant scripts and other software programs : http://www.shortcut.cc/landscape/

So, your gForge replacement coded with Ruby on Rails would be another project along CMSMS ?

By the way, gForge and the others are some kind of portal in project management. Did you try "simple" community scripts in project management ?

[Ted]

Yes, it'll be one of the support apps we have in place, like the translation center.  Honestly, I didn't try anything else.  I already knew what I wanted, so I figured it was easier to write it myself then take someone elses code and change it...  I could've just done that with gforge. 

[Guizmo]

Will you continue CMSMS in PHP ?
Did you ever consider using a good PHP framework helping in the work and the perspectives ?

Would also be interested to have your practical opinion and experience between something like ruby on rails and things like Prado or Qcodo ? Did you have also a look on things like Cake php ?

[Ted]

CMSMS will continue in PHP5.  2.0 (discussed elsewhere) will be php5 only and have a lot of neat rails-like features.  I looked into several frameworks before starting 2.0, but found that none really fit what I wanted to do as far as flexibility...  and honestly I loved what I had setup with smarty that I didn't want to give that up.

As far as a framework for writing the new forge...  Qcodo (and symfony) both use code generation.  That's right out.  No idea about Prado.  I've looked at Cake PHP several times, but I feel it's just playing catchup to rails...  so why bother when I can use the real thing?    Especially since I know it pretty well and could write the app quickly without having to learn something new.

[Guizmo]

Qcodo and Prado are closer as they are both inspired from ASP.net. In respect to QCodo developer, Symphony does not really use code generation, explanations here http://www.qcodo.com/documentation/article.php/6. There is also Zend framework which should allow XML db management.

ah, if you already know rails very fine : but it's more natural for those of use who do not know you that php were the road to follow as CMSMS is already in php and obviously you already know it so why learning something new like Rails 

[Ted]

Well, to be honest, I learned rails at a time when I was really frustrated with php4.  Obviously php5 has fixed some of the issues I had with php at the time, but I still haven't gone back and learned any of the frameworks.  I'm so quick with rails now that I have several projects under my belt that it's almost not worth it for me to go back and learn something else just because of the language it's in.  It's pretty irrelevant to me...    I like being multilingual. 

So, yeah, CMSMS will remain php, even if it's php5 only from here out.  And some of the infrastructure apps for the project will be mixed.  It's a good system...  keeps things interesting for me. 

[Guizmo]

Ted,

Thanks for this interview 

Alex, for CMS MS Online