Rydal Hall

[kierweb]

Here's the first ever CMS Made Simple website made by me:

www.rydalhall.org

It was built for a client, and I plan on using CMS Made Simple for even more sites I use

Comments please !

Thanks
Darren
Kierweb

[Nullig]

Very nice. I like the layout and colour scheme very much, but the right-hand column gets pushed down in IE6. You may have to play with your styles a bit to fix it.

Your pagewrapper width is 780 and the total of:

rightsidebar = 200
main = 430
leftsidebar = 150

is also 780, which could cause IE's box model to push the right side down. I would try lowering the rightside to 190, to see if it would correct the problem.

Nullig

[kierweb]

Thank you for your reply and advice...

I knew that, but i forgot about it !!!

I use IE7, but the client uses IE6 which is where I saw the error, but i completly forgot to fix it as I dont have the error here !

I reduced my centre column by 5 pixels and it fixed it :p

Darren

[Nullig]

Super.

You do have quite a few "HTML Validation" errors, but I wouldn't worry about them too much, unless you're looking to conform.

Great looking site, though. Well done!

Nullig

[Russ]

1. Perhaps it is those validation errors which is forcing the search box out of the right hand column in Firefox / Safari / Netscape on my Mac so it probably happens to the PC version as well? Weird things can happen - always try to validate. Actually I think it is either the right hand column width or the width of the search input.

2. Main menu wraps around to two lines on my browsers.

3. Also the footer has the text right up to the edges in these browser and Opera as well.

4. Last but no least accessibility is not great and fails even automatic validation in Cynthia - worth looking at I think.

I think good advice would be to always develop in a web standards browser (Firefox?) and then patch for IE in it's various guises.

Hope this helps, not meant to be critical just helpful

Russ

[hotaru]

It's a lovely site - really makes me want to stay there.

In Firefox on 800x600 resolution, the drop-downs in the "About" button are going off-screen.

[kierweb]

Thank you russ for your comments, I looked my site again and noticed on my firefox the mainmenu never wraps, the browser puts a horizontal scroll bar in, im assume this is because im running at a high resolution. Also I design my sites mainly to run at 1028 x 768

I dont have a search box so im assuming its the newsletter subscribe box you are on about - and again this in firefox doesn't move it out of the right hand column. Screenshot prehaps ?

Also I have fixed the footer problem ... firefox ignores div#footer p  for some reason .. so i put all the css coding within div#footer (dont you love it the why different browsers look at CSS)

VALIDATION : is a very good idea, but never do it - by the time I've designed the site I normally forget to do it.

Darren

[Russ]

I'd argue that validation ensures you can get the CSS to work - working around the IE flaws. You don't know how your site will be viewed, you have no control over it other than the CSS and design. So I think this mandates a fluid and validating design. What about PDA, phones , handhelds, older browsers, 800 x 600 or PDA/UMPC 640 x 480?

It is also against the law in many countries not to make your website accessible - which flows more naturally , I think, from the previous two points.

Apologies I did mean the newsletter subscribe box.

Picture attached.

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[kierweb]

Had a play around with the site, and now the Front page and templates are code valid, and moved some div's and redid some CSS which hopefully will make the site work in those other browsers.

Any chance someone can test for me please as I only have IE7 and Firefox 2

Thanks

Darren

[Nullig]

Seems OK in IE6 and FF.

The only problem I see is that when you hover on the About menu, the submenu items go off screen at lower resolutions and the bottom scrollbar pops on and off as it gets/loses focus.

Seems like you should be able to relocate that menu item easily to eliminate the problem.

Nullig

[kierweb]

I thought the same thing about the about menu, which i have now moved !

Darren