Some WYSIWYG questions

[pwarwick]

I've just started using CMSMS to develop a site for a small non-profit group. They would like to be able to edit the content on a few of their pages. So far I have been unable to find out if the available WYSIWYG editors will provide the following functionality:

1) Restrict modifications to one or two users

2) Integrate into the existing CMS files so that it is not necessary to retrofit the changes into the source CMS database

3) Allow the user to edit standard text on a page ... not just Forms ...

So far my exploration of TinyMCE and FCKEditor have left me bewildered. I cannot see that they can achieve my goals. Could other tools like Contribute work with a CMSMS site?

Any input will be appreciated.

[Pierre M.]

...if the available WYSIWYG editors will provide the following functionality:
1) Restrict modifications to one or two users

Isn't your question related to user permissions (or group rights) and not wysiwyg ?

2) Integrate into the existing CMS files so that it is not necessary to retrofit the changes into the source CMS database

I don't understand. Please explain the case of necessity "to retrofit the changes"...

3) Allow the user to edit standard text on a page ... not just Forms ...

I'm actually missing something. Isn't a CMS a system designed to "allow the user to edit standard text on a page", wysiwyg or not ?.

I'm sorry, I need examples to understand your questions.

Pierre M.

[pwarwick]

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...if the available WYSIWYG editors will provide the following functionality:
1) Restrict modifications to one or two users

Isn't your question related to user permissions (or group rights) and not wysiwyg ?

2) Integrate into the existing CMS files so that it is not necessary to retrofit the changes into the source CMS database

I don't understand. Please explain the case of necessity "to retrofit the changes"...

3) Allow the user to edit standard text on a page ... not just Forms ...

I'm actually missing something. Isn't a CMS a system designed to "allow the user to edit standard text on a page", wysiwyg or not ?.

I have set up user permissions for a user to change the text area on the pages, but that is not WYSIWYG editing. It requires knowledge of HTML (AFAIK)

My experience of FCKeditor so far, is that it requires a form field to contain the modifiable text ... I am probably not using it correctly. I also tried TinyMCE and it appeared to follow the same pattern.

When I tried Contribute it let me edit the user area as though it was the original page. When I finished editing it uploaded the changed page to the web site. I recognize that with a PHP based system this won't work.

[Pierre M.]

Using wysiwyg or not is a user choice. Let the user log in and tune his/her profile : the wysiwyg editor can be FCK, Tiny, or none. I still feel I don't understand your problem.
Pierre M.

[pwarwick]

I treid to use FCKEditor and it seemed to only permit me to change a FORM/text box?  field on the page. I don't know if this is the way that it is designed, because the documentation is very limited. I do not want to have the changes limited to a form field. I want the user to be able to change anything that is on the Page layout.

Am I  wrong about the form field? If so can anyone point me to some documentation that describes how to use FCKEditor (or TinyMCE) to edit a page without a from field?

What I am confued about is, if it requires a form field to be edited, will that form field be visible on the generated page?

[Pierre M.]

OK, I begin to understand. Your user is *both* a layout maker and a content writer.
Please RTFM : http://wiki.cmsmadesimple.org/index.php ... ng_Started
The layout maker designs templates, he is "able to change anything that is on the Page layout".
The content writer uses the wysiwyg to edit what the layout maker has made the {content} tag.
Install CMSms with sample content to follow the tutorial.
Have fun.
Pierre M.

[pwarwick]

I'm not sure about the distinction ... I am the layout maker ... another person is the content maker. But I will pursue the sample to see if it makes more sense.
Thanks

[pwarwick]

I tried the sample but when I attempt to submit the revised data I get a 405 error (Method not Allowed) for the POST command.

I suspect that my Apache web server is not configured correctly and have looked at httpd.conf to see where I should make changes. But before I break Apache does anyone have a hint as to what I should do?

[Vin]

There is also a demo of CMSMS at http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.php? ... iew&id=452 , so you can try it without installing the cms made simple  .

[pwarwick]

I have CMSMS installed. I just want to be able to update a page with fCKeditor ...

[Dee]

When you edit or add a page you get an editor for each so called content block.
By default there is one {content} tag in your template, but you can add more.

See the explanation of the {content} tag on this page and the help for the content tag (under Extensions » Tags in the admin menu) for more info.

Regards,
D

[pwarwick]

I guess we are talking about different things ... I am aware of the {content} tag ... how does this have anything to do with WYSIWYG?

[pwarwick]

I discovered that my problem with using fCKEditor was due to the fact that I was using Safari.

When I changed to Firefox the editor came up by default. I'm not at all sure what I did that caused that ... I'll have to figure it out. It is not quite what I expected to see but it definitely permits the editor to change the text and that is what I was looking for.

Thanks for the help.

[Pierre M.]

Safari ! yes, not supported as admin browser (yet) :
http://wiki.cmsmadesimple.org/index.php ... quirements
But if you find out why your feedback will be welcome and the requirements will be lowered.
Pierre M.