Linux vs Windows Web Hosting for CMSMS

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Linux vs Windows Web Hosting for CMSMS

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Hi guys...

Firstly, I would like to start my first post by saying that CMSMS has definitely made life a whole lot simpler. 

Now, I was wondering... my host is giving me the option to switch from my shared linux hosting to a shared windows account.

What do you suggest is better for CMSMS?  Mind you, they do not provide any support for content management systems.

Cheers.
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Post by Signex »

keep it on a linux server, its basicly build for linux. I dont think there is 1 reason why one would switch to windows hosting when using CMSMS
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Stay on Linux.
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Don't use Windows.
I've read much more Windows related bugs than CMSms related bugs in "installation help" and "general help".
Linux is doing very well for years without paying MS. Why should someone use something else ?
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Re: Linux vs Windows Web Hosting for CMSMS

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Thank you all for your input.  I also wanted to ask one more question...

I have recently had problems deleting an old joomla installation on my host, in that when doing things through the webserver, the user is either "nobody" or "apache", and this then causes problems when trying to delete the file later on.

I just want to cover all my basis before doing a clean install, and wanted to find out whether this is a likely case with CMSMS also?

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Yes, it's likely, Infact very likely. 

The httpd process (the web server program itself), runs as somebody.  and though this is system dependant, it's usually a user like 'httpd', or 'nobody'.  any files created by that process will be owned by that user.

Normally, in hosted environments you're given your own username, and password, and can upload files into one or more directories as that user.  Those files are owned by .

CMS allows you to install modules, and themes via XML.  These files, when used result in other files being created.  And since the process reading the XML files is the httpd process, the files created are owned by the user executing the httpd process.    CMS. 

As well, any files uploaded by you, or by other users using an HTTP interface will be owned by that same user.  Examples of this are images uploaded with the image manager or file manager, or any files (PDF, DOC, ...) uploaded with the uploads module. You will probably have difficulty (using your FTP user account) deleting these files (as they're owned by the httpd process user).  Unless of course, the permissions of the file allow your FTP user account to edit/delete the file.

And then this gets into groups, users, permissions, and umaks.

This is not abnormal to any Content management system, bulletin board system, etc.
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Thanks for that detailed reply.  So, is there any obvious way to overcome this?  I have ssh access, although, as can be understood from the point of view of any web host, root access is not allowed.  Is there some script, batch process, etc. that I can use to change ownership back to me?

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What you need, in order to delete files (via ftp) that are owned by the web server process, is to upload a script that you can then execute which will open the permissions wide open so that anybody can delete them.

Such a script is available, it's even posted on the wiki, and on the forum if I remember correctly (if not, then I'll post one in the wiki).

Just let me know.  it's a simple script.
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Re: Linux vs Windows Web Hosting for CMSMS

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Thanks Calguy...  Will look in the Wiki.  If you know the links of by hand, could you please post it here.

Many thanks for all the help!

Cheers.
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Soulistic wrote: ... I have ssh access...
So you can try to chmod directly and then rm.
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Hi,

If someone could please post the script for changing ownership, that would be very helpful.

Many thanks.

Cheers.
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