Sillyness in error console

[Cerulean]

I see the new error console shouts "OMG! You broke this page."

This is the sort of thing that's funny for about 0.5 seconds and then it's just annoying. Not to mention the confusion it's going to cause non-technical website visitors who see it and and wonder what they have done to cause this website to be yelling at them.

Can we please have sensible error messages in the core? People that want to get wacky with it should be the ones who have to edit their core code - not the rest of us.

[Jos]

In general that error screen does show a meaningfull Smarty error message. Once you as webdeveloper solved that, your visitors won't be bothered with it anymore

[Cerulean]

Yes, I'm aware of what the error console is for. My issue is with the silly heading.

[gocreative]

Yes, as a developer, these problems should be fixed. But as developers we are also aware that we don't always find every problem, so I tend to agree that the error message should at least be a little more formal and not say that "you" (i.e. the visitor) broke the page.

[Stikki]

So did i understand you right.

As developer you want boring message that is cryptic, makes your day depressing and isn't printed out nicely in HTML format?

Our intention was make it bit more pleasent for developers development cycle, so it would be fun to develop web pages with prettier error message.

Personally i enjoy more about this message than just white page and uncaught exceptions.

What others think? Feel free to give feedback.

oh, btw. It's just html file in smarty folder, so feel free to modify it what ever you see suitable.

-Stikki-

[gocreative]

I think you have misunderstood completely. I would just change 'OMG! You broke this page' to 'Sorry, an error has occurred'. Just something that doesn't make the user think that they are at fault. Everything else is fine.

[Stikki]

User never sees this else you allow him/her see it. As it is completely ment for developer to see.

[gocreative]

So you're saying that every developer is perfect and never misses any bugs?

[Stikki]

Not saying that, but you can always make your own template for this, if it disturbs you so much.

We find find it funny and refreshing compared to boring comment like:

This page is broken, please take contact...

Not going to change in light of few comments around here, more feedback from other people is welcome tho.

[gocreative]

Fair enough. I understand your reasoning, but I do think that a system designed to be user-friendly should factor in ALL users, not just developers. Things do go wrong and I don't think it adds any real value to have a supposedly "funny" message when a more accurate one could be provided.

[Stikki]

You have to also realize that there are bigger development issues than error page, and this error page just came to our mind in 1.11 development cycle. I find it very minor-trivial-critically-small problem, compared to some other issues around.

But your point has been noticed.

Thanks for your understanding.

[psy]

FWIW, I like the "OMG" message. As a developer, it tells me in no uncertain terms I've screwed up - probably in somewhere in the template. The end user/client will never see this so you can tell me politely I've made a mistake or, as now, blazen it across the screen with a funny message that makes me smile.

[Jo Morg]

FWIW, I like the "OMG" message. As a developer, it tells me in no uncertain terms I've screwed up - probably in somewhere in the template. The end user/client will never see this so you can tell me politely I've made a mistake or, as now, blazen it across the screen with a funny message that makes me smile.

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