MicroTiny

[lewishowles]

Those are the two cases I specifically said it does work. But as I say, a user isn't going to be able to write a cms_selflink and they shouldn't need to.

If they want to link to their own pages, they can't, because they will break if there's more than one level in the site's structure. It's not a case of writing their own HTML, it's the same even if they insert a link via MicroTiny buttons.

[JohnnyB]

I understand there is much debate about inserting/editing images and MicroTiny. Without a file upload option within the file picker, the insert image feature seems pointless.

Content editors need to insert images in content, and need to upload images.

Almost every site I've developed in the last 10 years required the ability to upload files while using the WYSIWYG file picker. This has been the case with CMS Made Simple since '05, WordPress, and every ecommerce CMS I've offered to clients.

Otherwise, MicroTiny is the best WYSIWYG editor available in any CMS, inmho, because it cuts out all of the bloat and features that 80% of all editors/site owners rarely, if ever, needed.

So, until I customize MicroTiny, I have to keep using TinyMCE

[Lukevdp]

Agreed mww. Being able to upload is very important.

I love MicroTiny in every other way, but I'm torn between having to teach my clients the file manager/image manager or just using TinyMCE.

If you ever do add file upload functionality to MicroTiny, I'm sure it would be highly appreciated if you share it

[calguy1000]

Once you consider adding file uploading to MicroTiny you have to consider:

a: what type of files will be allowed to upload and where to put them
(probably need a setting for that)
b: what to do with uploaded files
(generate thumbnails is a constant thing that will have to be done)
c: who can upload files
c.1 You probably don't want people that are visiting on the frontend adding a comment or something to upload files.
c.2 You probably also don't want certain people to upload files to certain input blocks..

Once you consider item c: then things get more complex. You now need to add parameters to the tag to disable file uploading... and you need profiles. i.e: what the behavior should be for frontend users, and certain members of certain groups of administrators). And all of a sudden the problem is not simple any more. You may as well use the fully bloated TinyMCE... cuz it's the same thing. You have the ability in TinyMCE to shut down as many features as you want.

[iNSiPiD]

Hi calguy1000,

Like you, I loathe WYSIWYG editors but appreciate they are a necessary evil. I imagine my problems with MicroTiny are the same ones that other CMSMS implementors are facing.

Two words: client lashback.

Is there any chance that you can provide an admin screen, or more manual method, for us to re-add some of the lost functionality?

Primary complaints are with creating named anchors, linking to them, and adding accessibility params such as Title and Alt.

A less desirable option (for the dev team) would be to continue support fir TinyMCE. Unfortunately I have attempted to reinstall this module for insistent clients but continue to get any empty textarea.

I look forward to an amenable resolution for both sides.

Kind regards,

Paul

[Dr.CSS]

The latest version of tinyMCE works now...

[iNSiPiD]

Hi Doc, while that's good to hear, I see it as a short term solution without dedicated developrs busting a gut to keep ut working.

I think the MicroTiny implementation was a sound idea; and I rhink that providing a mechanism for admins to "drop in" additional functionality is the best way forward.

I'd be happy to sign up for support wirh this but last time I checked MicroTiny wasn't a Forge project.

Best,

Paul

[Dr.CSS]

Adding additional functionality to micro tiny has been discussed and it ain't going to happen, as said keep adding to it and it becomes full blown tinyMCE which is still available and will continue to be updated...

[iNSiPiD]

Thanks, Doc. That must be painful but at least it provides a solution.

[gingercat]

Have to agree with some of the comments above - MicroTiny is great but if we use it someone will always ask "How do I upload a photo?"

Telling them to upload an image using image manager is just too complicated for most of them to get their heads around - Personally I will continue to use TinyMCE for my clients.

What about adding some kind of link to the CMSMS Image Mnager to the toolbar in MicroTiny?

[calguy1000]

CMSMS 1.11 has the new OneEleven theme with drag and drop upload capability. Therefore there's no need to use ImageManager first. Just select the folder (which is sticky). Drop your files, then click the image button and select the image.

There is no plan or intention to expand on the functionality of MicroTiny. Somebody is always free to take it (or the TiinyMCE module) and fork it, or write their own wysiwyg.

[gingercat]

I've only just tried the latest version so didn't realize about the drag and drop - That's quite a cool solution.