phpbbx behavior options

samurai · Post by **samurai** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:45 pm

Whoever uses phpBBX, please express your opinion.

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 2:40 pm

Good. Now can someone do the same for SMF?

amygdela · Post by **amygdela** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:19 pm

depends on your installfolder ey?!

samurai · Post by **samurai** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:26 am

I mean the typo is in the tag's name in the help section, it's phpbb instead of phpbbx

Geo

CMSMS-Fan · Post by **CMSMS-Fan** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 4:40 pm

Ted wrote: Good. Now can someone do the same for SMF?

It would be nice. I see that even CMSMS uses SMF and no one ha written some easy one click method of intigrating into CMS. What would be really nice would be able to use the members accounts from SMF as the users in CMS....?

CMSMS and SMF are two excelent bits of kit but they don't talk to each other.... Boo Hooo

thetmz · Post by **thetmz** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:54 am

Hey all,

I don't know - phpbbx doesn't work for me as it's written.
If I create user via front-end users module, it's in phpbb2 and the first time i log into front-users login form and use phpbbx plugin - it redirects correctly. Then, if I logout from front-end users and login back in - using phpbbx plugin is worthless - because it goes to phpbb2 dir as guest.

The other thing is, if you logout from phpbb2, and browse the page in cmsms, you're still logged in as front end user. When you go to phpbb2 - you're guest. So on the one hand (if not the first error) it is good, but on the other hand - you have two different user systems...

If I'm doing something wrong, please let me know.

THETMZ

katon · Post by **katon** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:57 am

Well, these are two different systems, and if you think about it, it's a challenge to synchronize them. The problem is not the technical implementation. The problem is the logic. If you can carefully describe the behaviour at logout in each of the systems - all possible use cases that need to be implemented - this can be done.

thetmz · Post by **thetmz** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:29 pm

katon wrote: Well, these are two different systems, and if you think about it, it's a challenge to synchronize them. The problem is not the technical implementation. The problem is the logic. If you can carefully describe the behaviour at logout in each of the systems - all possible use cases that need to be implemented - this can be done.

Ok, and what about logging in? Does it work correctly? Cause for me, it doesn't. It only works the first time when I create user in front-end. If I log out - it won't log u in to phpbb2.

Describing the logging out problem - i don't think it's the logic problem. There are two things:
if you're logged in as a front-end user - u should be logged in as phpbb2 also. if you are logged in phpbb2 - u should be logged in as front-end user. And the same with logging out - if you log out from front-end - you should be logged out from phpbb2 and vice versa.

Am i right?

katon · Post by **katon** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:52 pm

thetmz wrote: Describing the logging out problem - i don't think it's the logic problem. There are two things:
if you're logged in as a front-end user - u should be logged in as phpbb2 also. if you are logged in phpbb2 - u should be logged in as front-end user. And the same with logging out - if you log out from front-end - you should be logged out from phpbb2 and vice versa.

Am i right?

This is exactly what I'm saying. This is just one opinion. But you can also say: Why am I logged out from the web site Front End if I have only logged out from the forum?

I think we need a poll to decide how this should be best implemented. And think through each option of the poll.

thetmz · Post by **thetmz** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:55 pm

katon:
but at least is logging in working correctly?
because i have that problem described above..

cyberman · Post by **cyberman** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:03 pm

katon wrote: I think we need a poll to decide how this should be best implemented.

Why a poll

- IMHO it would be better I can choose both ways as an option ...

katon · Post by **katon** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:18 pm

You as a front end user? or you as a web site administrator?

Should this be included into the tag as an option? Or should we ask the user if he wants to be logged out of both systems?

I think this is the situation when it's not a good idea to offer the variety. Rather, we should try to predict front end user expectations. We need to answer the question: If the user clicks log out in the forum, does he expect to be logged out from the web site? My assumption is no, but it's better to ask different opinions.

cyberman · Post by **cyberman** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:29 pm

katon wrote: You as a front end user? or you as a web site administrator?

Only as admin

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katon · Post by **katon** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:15 am

Cyberman, I think the behaviour of the login/logout solution must rely on the front end user expectations, not on the admin preferences.

thetmz · Post by **thetmz** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:19 pm

katon: what about my question?

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