Products/Cart/Orders - FEU login required?

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Products/Cart/Orders - FEU login required?

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Hello,

Is it somehow possible to disable the required FEU-login in the order process? Otherwise this combination works fine but the required registration/login process is totally unnessessary and only disturbing the ordering process and is considered a deal breaker. Is there ANY way to get away with it?

Specs are:
CMSMS 1.5.3
Products 2.3.1
Cart 1.4.2
Orders 1.2.5
FEU 1.6.5

I appreciate any help, thank you.
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Did you try to remove all the Custom content and FEusers code from the templates?
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Yes I did, but it seems that the Orders module relies so much on FEU module, that modifying the templates won't help. It simply won't process the order if a user hasn't logged in.

It's actually hardcoded so deep in to module, that I guess I'll have to go with the plan B. Unless someone can provide some assistance/workaround. (I'm not a programmer myself). :(
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Nope... the Orders module uses the FEU Userid as one of the order keys... that's a requirement.

besides 95% of E-commerce stuff wants user login/registration so that they can add on other functionality for the user.
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Could there not be a tick box to make this optional?
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there could be, of course... but then why? 

95% of sites will want people to login/register so they can do things like track sales, send sales newsletters, offer special deals to repeat customers, etc, etc....

and in my experience the customers that 'say' they don't want people to register, are usually the ones that will come back 3 weeks later and say .... how do I handle repeat customers, how do I make it so they don't have to enter their billing/shipping information each time.... how do I create a group of 'special customers, etc etc'...

There's a reason why each and every e-commerce site I have bought from has asked me to register/login.
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Post by ndb »

That login thing is only reason why I decided to use other module for the shop.

The products/cart combination is great (really simple) and I would like to use it but the login requirement in orders module is ruining it.
Why? Because I have really small shop with just a couple of products (5) and people wont come back so often to need  account. Its only complicating things and I'm afraid that some people will decide not to place order because of it.

If I had a lots of products and returning customers then I think I would not use a module for CMS. Instead I would use something like Zen Cart.
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Post by kendo451 »

I also found that requiring registration prior to purchase greatly reduces the number who actually pay.

However, I created the following solution for it:

1. Create a form in formbuilder, for Step 1 of your purchase process.  Ask their name, email, phone, etc, just like you would for an order.

2. Create a user defined tag that uses FrontEndUsers Api to create a new user and log him in.  Use the info collected in the form to populate the user info.  The rest you can use AFTER he finishes the order.  I call this tag from the Form Submission Template.

3. Do Orders normally.  In your Post_Gate_Way complete template, call a UDT that processes the order and copies the user info fields to the FEU profile.  Then you can have it email them a username and password along with their order information.
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I also think it should be optional as to whether feu should be a requirement for orders


I don't want to store any customer info
just collect a basket of items
then pass it on to paypal for processing
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Hi !

Why not use cataloger ?
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Post by visualharmony »

Kendo,

I am following your instructions and I have created the form in Step 1 with all of the necessary fields in Formbuilder.

At this point I have a few questions:

1.) Will you please share the code in your UDT for Step 2?  I haven't been able to find any documentation for automatically creating a user and logging him in.
2.) After I have the proper working UDT, how would I send the info from the form to the UDT?
3.) How do I populate FEU user properties with info entered into the form?
4.) In Step 3, is this the same UDT or another one?  If different, would you mind sharing that as well.

Thanks in advance for any assistance you can offer!
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