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IE 6 problems with blank space above content

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:02 pm
by cnymike
I'm in the end phase of developing site with CMSMS 1.0.2. Things are fine in Firefox and Safari on my Mac, but not in IE6 for Windows.

I know that IE6 behaves badly and it seems to not like my site. I've not done too much tweaking to the CSS but apparently I've done enough to screw things up... either that or the way I have designed my content area is the problem. I'm hoping someone can spot the problem and let me know how to fix.

The site is only partially active until I can get things squared away. It's located at http://www.senecahillperennials.com
If you go to the Plants A page, you'll see that in IE6, there is a large blank space before the content appears. this does not appear this way in Firefox, Safari.

Here is my main CSS file... I have modified it a little and added a bit at the end which is commented. I will also attach a snippet of page content code after the CSS.

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/*****************
browsers interpret margin and padding a little differently, 
we'll remove all default padding and margins and
set them later on
******************/
* {
margin:0;
padding:0;
}

/*
Set initial font styles
*/
body {
   text-align: left;
   font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
   font-size: 75.01%;
   line-height: 1em;
}

/*
set font size for all divs,
this overrides some body rules
*/
div {
   font-size: 1em;
}

/*
if img is inside "a" it would have 
borders, we don't want that
*/
img {
   border: 0;
}

/*
default link styles
*/
/* set all links to have underline and bluish color */
a,
a:link 
a:active {
   text-decoration: underline;
/* css validation will give a warning if color is set without background color. this will explicitly tell this element to inherit bg colour from parent element */
   background-color: inherit; 
   color: #18507C; 
}

a:visited {
   text-decoration: underline;
   background-color: inherit;
  color: #18507C;                /* a different color can be used for visited links */
}


/* remove underline on hover and change color */
a:hover {
   text-decoration: none;
   background-color: #C3D4DF;
   color: #385239;
}

/*****************
basic layout 
*****************/
body {
   background-color: #ccc;
   color: #333;
   margin:1em; /* gives some air for the pagewrapper */
}

/* center wrapper, min max width */
div#pagewrapper {
   border: 1px solid black;
   margin: 0 auto;     /* this centers wrapper */
   max-width: 80em; /* IE wont understand these, so we will use javascript magick */
   min-width: 60em;
   background-color: #fff;;
   color: black;
}


/*** header ***
we will hide text and replace it with a image
we need to assign a height for it
*/

div#header {
   height: 140px; /* adjust according your image size */
   background: #FFFFFF;           
}

div#header h1 a {
/* you can set your own image here */
   background: #FFFFFF url(uploads/images/logo.jpg) no-repeat 0 12px; 
   display: block; 
   height: 140px;             /* adjust according your image size */
   text-indent: -999em;  /* this hides the text */
   text-decoration:none; /* old firefox would have shown underline for the link, this explicitly hides it */
}

div#search {
   float: right;
   width: 23em;     /* enough width for the search input box */
   text-align: right;
   padding: 0.6em 0 0.2em 0;
   margin: 0 1em;
}

div.breadcrumbs {
   padding: 1em 0 1.2em 0; /* CSS short hand rule first value is top then right, bottom and left */
   font-size: 90%;             /* its good to set fontsizes to be relative, this way viewer can change his/her fontsize */
   margin: 0 1em;              /* css shorthand rule will be opened to be "0 1em 0 1em" */
   border-bottom: 1px dotted #000;
}

div#content {
   margin: 1.5em auto 2em 0; /* some air abobe and under menu and content */
}

div#main {
   margin-left: 29%; /* this will give room for sidebar to be on the left side, make sure this space is bigger than sidebar width */
   margin-right: 2%; /* and some air on the right */
}


div#sidebar {
   float: left;  /* set sidebar on the left side. Change to right to float it right instead. */
   width: 26%;    /* sidebar width, if you change this please also change #main margins */
   display: inline;  /* FIX ie doublemargin bug */
   margin-left: 0;
}

/* if sidebar doesnt include menu but content add class="hascontent" */
div#sidebar.hascontent {
   padding: 0 1%;
   width: 24%;  /* make width smaller if there's padding, or it will get too wide for the floated divs in IE */
}

div#footer {
   clear:both;       /* keep footer below content and menu */
   color: #fff;
   background-color: #385239; /* same bg color as in header */
}

div#footer p {
   font-size: 0.8em;
   padding: 1.5em;      /* some air for footer */
   text-align: center; /* centered text */
   margin:0;
}

div#footer p a {
   color: #fff; /* needed becouse footer link would be same color as background otherwise */
}

/* as we hid all hr for accessibility we create new hr with extra div element */
div.hr {
   height: 1px;
   margin: 1em;
   border-bottom: 1px dotted black;
}

/* relational links under content */
div.left49 {
  float: left;
  width: 49%;  /* 50% for both left and right might lead to rounding error on some browser */
}

div.right49 {
  float: right;
  width: 49%;
  text-align: right;
}




/********************
CONTENT STYLING
*********************/
div#content {

}

/* HEADINGS */
div#content h1 {
   font-size: 2em;  /* font size for h1 */
   line-height: 1em;
   margin: 0;
}
div#content h2 {
   color: #385239; 
   font-size: 1.5em; 
   text-align: left; 
/* some air around the text */
   padding-left: 0.5em;
   padding-bottom: 1px;
/* set borders around header */
   border-bottom: 1px solid #385239; 
   border-left: 1.1em solid #385239; 
   line-height: 1.5em;
/* and some air under the border */
   margin: 0 0 0.5em 0;
}
div#content h3 {
   color: #385239; 
   font-size: 1.3em;
   line-height: 1.3em;
   margin: 0 0 0.5em 0;
}
div#content h4 {
   color: #385239; 
   font-size: 1.2em;
   line-height: 1.3em;
   margin: 0 0 0.25em 0;
}
div#content h5 {
   font-size: 1.1em;
   line-height: 1.3em;
   margin: 0 0 0.25em 0;
}
h6 {
   font-size: 1em;
   line-height: 1.3em;
   margin: 0 0 0.25em 0;
}
/* END HEADINGS */

/* TEXT */
p {
   font-size: 1em;
   margin: 0 0 1.5em 0;  /* some air around p elements */
   line-height:1.4em;
   padding: 0;
}
blockquote {
   border-left: 10px solid #ddd;
   margin-left: 10px;
}
pre {
   font-family: monospace;
   font-size: 1.0em;
}
strong, b {
/* explicit setting for these */
   font-weight: bold;
}
em, i {
/* explicit setting for these */
   font-style:italic;
}

/* Wrapping text in <code> tags. Makes CSS not validate */
code, pre {
 white-space: pre-wrap;       /* css-3 */
 white-space: -moz-pre-wrap;  /* Mozilla, since 1999 */
 white-space: -pre-wrap;      /* Opera 4-6 */
 white-space: -o-pre-wrap;    /* Opera 7 */
 word-wrap: break-word;       /* Internet Explorer 5.5+ */
 font-family: "Courier New", Courier, monospace;
 font-size: 1em;
}

pre {
   border: 1px solid #000;  /* black border for pre blocks */
   background-color: #ddd;
   margin: 0 1em 1em 1em;
   padding: 0.5em;
   line-height: 1.5em;
   font-size: 90%;   /* smaller font size, as these are usually not so important data */
}

/* END TEXT */

/* LISTS */
div#main ul,
div#main ol,
div#main dl {
  font-size: 1.0em;
   line-height:1.4em;
   margin: 0 0 1.5em 0;
}
div#main ul li,
div#main ol li {
   margin: 0 0 0.25em 3em;
}

div#dl dt {
   font-weight: bold;
   margin: 0 0 0.25em 3em;
}
div#dl dd {
   margin: 0 0 0 3em;
}
/* END LISTS */

/* customized by michael for seneca hill perennials plant descriptions */
div.plants {
   width: 100%;
   background-color: #eee;
   }
div.plants img{
   float: left;
   margin:0px 5px 5px 5px;
   }
div.plants p {
   width: 90%;
   line-height: 1.1em;
   height:auto;
   }
.smalltext {
   font-size: .9em;
   font-weight: bold;
   font-style: italic;
   }
.strongtext {
   font-weight: bold;
   }
div.addressblock {
   margin:25px;
   font-size:1em;
   }
Here is a sample of code from the page.

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<div class="plants"><span class="strongtext"><a href="http://s174494657.onlinehome.us/senecahillperennials/uploads/images/plant_a/acanthus_hungaricus3.jpg"><span class="strongtext"><img width="100" height="75" align="left" alt="Acanthus hungaricus " src="http://s174494657.onlinehome.us/senecahillperennials/uploads/images/plant_a/acanthus_hungaricus3.jpg" /></span></a>Acanthus hungaricus</span><br />
<span class="smalltext">Zone 5 ~ Height: to 1m/39in ~ Sun, well-drained fertile soil</span>
<p>Native to southeastern Europe, this is a handsome clump-forming acanthus with deeply lobed leaves and tall spikes of lilac flowers. It's been hardy and free-blooming here for many years.<br />
Pot size: 1.1 qt (1.06L) - 8.99 <a href="http://ww6.aitsafe.com/cf/add.cfm?userid=85169777& product=Acanthus-hungaricus-Pot size: 1.1 qt (1.06L)&price=8.99"><span class="cart">Add To Cart</span></a></p>
<div class="hr"> </div>
</div>
<div class="plants"><span class="strongtext"><a target="_blank" href="http://s174494657.onlinehome.us/senecahillperennials/uploads/images/plant_a/acis_autumnale2.jpg"><img width="100" height="75" align="left" alt="Acis autumnalis " src="http://s174494657.onlinehome.us/senecahillperennials/uploads/images/plant_a/acis_autumnale2.jpg" /></a>Acis autumnalis </span><br />
<span class="smalltext">Zone 5 ~ Height: to 15cm/6in ~ Sun, well-drained soil</span>
<p>(formerly <em>Leucojum autumnale</em>) The leaves of the Autumn Snowflake emerge in fall and go dormant in late spring. In mid summer the wand-like flowering stem emerges, holding one to four tiny white flared bells delicately suspended in space. We let ours wander around the rock garden; they multiply freely and take up very little space. Several bulbs per pot.<br />
Pot size: 8 fl.oz. (235ml) - 5.99 <a href="http://ww6.aitsafe.com/cf/add.cfm?userid=85169777& product=Acis-autumnalis-Pot size: 8 fl.oz. (235ml)&price=5.99"><span class="cart">Add To Cart</span></a></p>
<div class="hr"> </div>
</div>
Take a look and let me know if you've got any suggestions. It's probably a div width issue or something but I just can't seem to figure it out.

Thanks for a great CMS!

Re: IE 6 problems with blank space above content

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:30 pm
by Dr.CSS
It may be these... no need for them in Firefox so they may mess with IE?...

EDIT:  take these out, just the stuff marked in blue...

div.plants {
  width: 100%;
  background-color: #eee;
  }
div.plants img{
  float: left;
  margin:0px 5px 5px 5px;
  }
div.plants p {
  width: 90%;
  line-height: 1.1em;
  height:auto;
  }

Re: IE 6 problems with blank space above content

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:10 pm
by cnymike
Good call Mark. That does seem to fix it but the reason I made those div's was to solve some other display problems I was having.

I need to have a 5px margin on the right and bottom to buffer the photo from the text. How do I do that if I don't have the div I created that you suggested I remove?

Re: IE 6 problems with blank space above content

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:34 pm
by cnymike
I was able to get my image margin by simply adding ...

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img {margin:0px 5px 5px 5px;}
White space is gone and image is padded now.

Re: IE 6 problems with blank space above content

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:38 pm
by Dr.CSS
Sorry the parts in blue were the only thing I thought you might want to take out, guess I could have had it like the Edit I did...

Re: IE 6 problems with blank space above content

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:56 pm
by cnymike
Oh...geez, I didn't even notice that you had highlighted in blue the code that I was to have deleted. Doh! Maybe I'll go back and put it back in with the edits you indicated and see if it works. Sorry for being colorblind :-)