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Hide Page(S)
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:45 pm
by KitchM
Does anyone know how to hide a page in CMSMS? I would like to make a page hidden from crawlers and bots and such so that it cannot be viewed, read or copied by "outside" means. By "outside" I mean unauthorized.
Thank you.
Re: Hide Page(S)
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:07 pm
by Jo Morg
Re: Hide Page(S)
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:31 pm
by KitchM
Thanks for the reply.
That module seems to be for just adding a password. It does not say that it is for hiding pages. Of course there isn't much description so I could be wrong.
Re: Hide Page(S)
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:52 pm
by Wishbone
KitchM wrote:By "outside" I mean unauthorized.
What is "authorized" in your case?
Re: Hide Page(S)
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:34 am
by KitchM
The opposite of
crawlers and bots and such
Oh, and also people.
Re: Hide Page(S)
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:34 am
by velden
Maybe you can explain what you want to use it for then?
You can set a page inactive in options tab ('Active' checkbox) or in page overview (click the green icon in 'Active' column).
However that would make the page inaccessible from frontend.
Re: Hide Page(S)
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:44 am
by staartmees
You can set a page so it doesn't show up in the menu. I think the ebst system to prevent unauthorised viewing is using FEU and setting the page to protected content.
Re: Hide Page(S)
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:13 am
by Jo Morg
KitchM wrote: I would like to make a page hidden from crawlers and bots and such so that it cannot be viewed, read or copied by "outside" means. By "outside" I mean unauthorized.
Both
FEU and
page_protect are authentication systems, meaning that users not authenticated can be prevented to have access to certain contents/pages etc. FEU is primarily a Users Management module, while page_protect is a light plugin which provides simple but flexible and effective protection to page contents.
KitchM wrote:That module seems to be for just adding a password. It does not say that it is for hiding pages.
No module/plugin "hides" pages AFAIK, they just hide content from unauthorized (unauthenticated) visitors, including bots and crawlers.
Using
page_protect or
FEU is more a matter of simple protection vs users management and protection.
Re: Hide Page(S)
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:27 pm
by KitchM
Now we're getting somewhere! Thank you for the explanation. That makes sense.
It also appears to clarify that FEU is the preferred method overall. However, there is one huge flaw; it does not work on the current version of CMSMS. At least the directions do not fit reality.
Does anyone know if there anything else that is like that in the cms world?
Thanks again.
Re: Hide Page(S)
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:33 pm
by Jo Morg
KitchM wrote: However, there is one huge flaw; it does not work on the current version of CMSMS.
Both do.
KitchM wrote:At least the directions do not fit reality.
Don't quite get what you mean...
KitchM wrote:It also appears to clarify that FEU is the preferred method overall
It's really a matter of needing to use a Front End User management system vs not. For sites which only need to protect pages with passwords you don't really need FEU.
Re: Hide Page(S)
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:12 pm
by KitchM
Here's what I meant. I looked around and found a pdf file that is entitled "Hiding Private Content in CMS Made Simple". But there were problems with that.
Page 12 of the manual states:
CONFIGURING FRONTENDUSERS
Once the FrontEndUsers module is installed, you can find it's administration panel in the CMS Made Simple admin console under the “Users & Groups” menu (you may have to refresh the page after the installation process, for the menu to regenerate).
Here I assume is meant “Frontend User Management”
Specifying Module Behavior
You can specify most of the options that change the modules behavior in the “Preferences” tab of the FrontEndUsers administration panel. By default these preferences are fine for most users, however I will briefly explain the important preferences here.
Here the instructions start to break down. There is no Preferences tab.
Re: Hide Page(S)
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:21 pm
by Jo Morg
I believe that the pdf is somewhat outdated, however it still serves as general guide. "Settings" is not a tab but a link on the top just below the heading now.
Keep in mind that ALL CG modules need PHP 5.3.x, minimum...
Re: Hide Page(S)
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:37 pm
by KitchM
I just checked to make sure since you mentioned it, and yes everything is still up to date including php 5.3.3.
So where does "Settings" come into play?
Re: Hide Page(S)
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:06 pm
by KitchM
So I tried to muddle thru the instuctions with all the missing parts, and I finally got to the point where it goes to "Testing".
It displays this text:
Testing
Testing the configuration is a matter of clicking on the “Restricted Test 1” link when both logged in, and logged out. When logged out you should automatically be redirected to the “login” page after clicking on the “Restricted Test 1” page
But there is no "Restricted Test 1" link.
At this point, even if someone got the rest completed correctly, the user is left dead in the water.
Any ideas?
Thanks again.
Re: Hide Page(S)
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:58 pm
by KitchM
I just realized that I had another post about this but it got deleted somehow. So I hope a solution can be found here.
Thanks for all the ideas. Keep 'em coming!