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Dear CMS team,

I gotta say I'm very impressed with your CMS. After installation, it took me only one day to convert an HTML/CSS template into CMS and learn all the basic tasks - you guys have done a great job

I'm really considering switching from Joomla to CMS, however, I read [url=http://"http://php.opensourcecms.com/scripts/details.php?scriptid=9&name=CMS%20Made%20Simple"]this comment here @ opensourcecms.com[/url] - that holds me back.

The guy said: As a past user I can guarantee the following: it is slow. doesn't matter what you run it on. it's slow. wait until the v2 release to see if they speed things up. til then, don't waste your time.

Can anyone of you tell me a little about CMS perfomance. Is it fast? Can it handle big sites (say >500 pages)?

Thank you for your time  ,
Hieu.

Hy Hieu,

Well, In my opnion and overall tests, CMSMS is faster than Joomla.

Sure, that depends on which modules you´re using, for both systems.

Also, there are many ways to speed up and tune CMSMS.

Yes it can handle big sites, and I may say that I was happy on using cmsms on big projects.

The main problem is how many visitors get to your site, and the server resources and setup.

All depends on how youre going to use it. For example, I have a dummy site running with more than 6 billion pages. All customized using youtube api, on a very slow shared server and even that way the results are acceptable.

In other hand I have sites with not so many pages, but with a lot of visits, that runs smoothly in a dedicated server.

And depends on how dynamic si your site.

So, go for it. I´m sure that all the CMSMS community will help you in everything that´s possible.

Regards,

G

Dear viebig,

Thank you so much for you fast and informative reply. I would like to ask a little bit more about the tuning stuff - can you give me some hints on that 

I'm also looking for some more opinions from the community - I really appreciate that.

Thank you,
Hieu

my best tip for you would be to look through the showoff forum
and see a small portion of the sites that are running CMS
and judge for yoursellf.

I have alot of sites with 500+ pages and tons of users... lots of traffic... and some of those are on very crappy servers(shared godday)... the best thing about CMSMS is that if you have a need you can there is almost always a way... as those big sites on the crappy servers I'v made fly...

My2Cents
cheers
Jeremy

ndh611 wrote: Dear viebig,

Thank you so much for you fast and informative reply. I would like to ask a little bit more about the tuning stuff - can you give me some hints on that 

I'm also looking for some more opinions from the community - I really appreciate that.

Thank you,
Hieu

First thing, get a VPS with at least 512Mb RAM, a light linux install, then get a PHP Accelerator, like PHP Opcode Cache, XCache or Zend, I recommend  XCache or PHP Opcode Cache(this will cost 50 USD/month), but only needed for really big projects, not in term of pages but visitors(traffic), use phpfcgi instead of cgi or the standard apache module.

That setup can give CMSMS a 2000% (+-) performance increase.

But this is need for sites with a really big traffic and very dynamic pages.

Try it on a shared hosting, look the memory and time footprint below source code of the pages.

Cheers

G

I have only seen one thing make CMSMS run slow, and it wasn't the fault of the content management system.  The problem was MySQL latency on networksolutions shared hosting accounts.

If you have a shared hosting account, and the host uses server clusters for MySQL, it means that the MySQL server might not even be in the same building as your web server.

So, when you have a CMS Made Simple page that takes 60 MySQL queries to generate, MySQL latency can slow it down to 10-15 second per page.

There are two easy solutions to this:

1. Switch to a hosting provider with MySQL on the same box as the webserver.

Or

2. Get a Virtual Private Server (VPS) which has the MySQL on the same machine as the webserver by default.

Either solution will bring you back down below 1 second page generation time.

Hello,

I'd like to add that as a "simple xHTML+CSS over HTTP CMS" CMSms is compatible with webserver level and browser side caches. Almost static sections of any site can take advantage of this (webserver caching => no DB access => no DB latency).

Pierre M.

I've installed on a big variety of hosts, shared, VPS, and dedicated. And, I've been working with CMSMS for over 2 yrs. The older versions were slow and slower than joomla for comporable sites - CMSMS version pre 1.4

Now Versions 1.5+ are very very fast and you can make it faster by reducing the number of global content blocks and CSS files stored.  I use static_stylesheet plugin for any CSS I keep in the CMSMS admin. But, I usually use static css files managed via FTP.  Be sure to follow all things you would normally do to make a site load quickly - optimized images, caching files using htaccess, gziping content via php or htaccess settings.

CMSMS will run slower on the following hosts: network solutions, godaddy, startlogic, IX web hosting, lunar pages (sometimes)