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Slow CMS site
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:19 pm
by volcanoboy
Hey,
I'm experiencing some problems with a site i'm working on atm. I had a look around the forums and i did see some suggestions here and there. But thought i'd check here anyway. I'm using the latest release.
The problem may be that on some pages i'm using more than one Content block and i also use Global Content blocks quite alot. But still 20+ seconds to load a page seems a little off. I just went trough the pages now and just about all of them took 20+ seconds to load. But then i can check 5 min later and everything is fast and smooth.
Link:
http://www.adreklame.no/AD2008/ (sorry about the norwegian)
Is this a host thing or is it my crap code?
Re: Slow CMS site
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:27 pm
by sonictrip
Well just to add to this, im using v1.2.3 and im experiencing speed issues as well which are there one minute and gone the next, happens a lot though.
I had been in contact with my host about this too and they say that the server is configured and working properly so it must be a CMSMS issue??? We're also on a dedicated server which raises even more eyebrows about CMSMS being the cause?!
Re: Slow CMS site
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:33 pm
by Nullig
Slow sites are common when the MySQL server is overloaded. You could check with your hosting provider to check this out.
Nullig
Re: Slow CMS site
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:08 pm
by sonictrip
Hi Nullig,
I see you're Irish, good stuff, you might be familiar with Host Ireland then are you? Thats who we're using for webspace... Would a dedicated server even have these types of issues though?
I'll check with them now anyway about the SQL being overloaded... cheers.
Re: Slow CMS site
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:16 pm
by Nullig
Is your MySQL server on the same server as your site?
Quite often the MySQL server is different (centralised).
Nullig
Re: Slow CMS site
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:11 pm
by Pierre M.
volcanoboy, you haven't said much about your version and hosting context.
Pierre M.
Re: Slow CMS site
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:19 am
by volcanoboy
Pierre M. wrote:
volcanoboy, you haven't said much about your version and hosting context.
Pierre M.
Sorry about that.
I'm using the CMS Made Simple 1.2.3 "Black Rock" release. The page is hosted with Domeneshop in norway which is one of the cheaper Hosts but that i have used for many sites. I haven't really had any problems with them prior to now. They have pretty good phone support but i'm not entierly sure what to ask them regardign the problem.
I just think it's strange that it can be slow one minute and superfast the next..
What's a dedicated server? Is that something a host could offer?
Re: Slow CMS site
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:27 am
by KO
I was once working with customer that had in-house server which was really old and slow. Usually 2-3 second for any page. Then certain times a day they were doing backups or some other things and it could take 7-9 sec to create page or even more. This always happends at the same time of the day.
After they got tired for this and bought new server it took 0.2-0.3 second to create any page at any time of the day. So if you have critical customers don't save on cheapest servers with CMS.
Re: Slow CMS site
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:54 am
by volcanoboy
Our site (where i work) hosted with Domeneshop -
http://www.adreklame.no/AD2008/ - using CMS Made Simple 1.2.3 "Black Rock"
going up to 20+ sec
Just some random tests just now
Last project i did hosted elsewhere -
http://svbetong.no/
The pages aren't actually that different allthough there are more contentblocks & global content blocks on our site.
Is this a host thing then? In your oppinion?
Re: Slow CMS site
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:57 am
by cubix
Hi, I havent read any of this post, so sorry if im stepping on toes.
but times listed above, id put down to an overloaded sql server. might be time to shop around.
EDIT: just visited the above url (
http://www.adreklame.no/AD2008/ ) and got...
might be a good idea to see if anyone else gets these speeds..
Re: Slow CMS site
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:01 am
by Richardo P
definately down to an overloaded sql server.
I recently moved hosts and the speed difference was so noticeable it was worth paying the extra £ per year, whilst its probably true that cmsms isn't the most efficiant cms (sorry) a good host will solve all your problems.
I've found united hosting to be very very good and their support is second to none in my opinion. So far i'm running 3 cmsms sites from 1 account with them and all have excellent speed.
http://www.unitedhosting.co.uk/
Re: Slow CMS site
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:12 am
by sonictrip
Hi KO,
In the case of myself, the server is a dedicated one, its Unix and has the latest versions of PHP and MySQL...
Re: Slow CMS site
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:09 am
by volcanoboy
cubix wrote:
Hi, I havent read any of this post, so sorry if im stepping on toes.
but times listed above, id put down to an overloaded sql server. might be time to shop around.
EDIT: just visited the above url (
http://www.adreklame.no/AD2008/ ) and got...
might be a good idea to see if anyone else gets these speeds..
That's the weird part cause the loadtimes are completely random. I can go to a page and it loads almost instantly. I hit refresh and i have to wait for 20 sec. But overall, since i'm working on it as we speak, it's slow most of the time..
Re: Slow CMS site
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:31 am
by KO
Firefox extension firebug has something called "net" which tells how long it takes to download things in the page you are looking at. It does not tell how long it takes from mysql server to execute things but at least you know bit more what could be causing slow page download times.
You might see that i.e. stylesheet.php takes long to download and that definately tells there is something probably overloading at mysql server. Or you might find something else.
Re: Slow CMS site
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:58 am
by volcanoboy
KO wrote:
Firefox extension firebug has something called "net" which tells how long it takes to download things in the page you are looking at. It does not tell how long it takes from mysql server to execute things but at least you know bit more what could be causing slow page download times.
You might see that i.e. stylesheet.php takes long to download and that definately tells there is something probably overloading at mysql server. Or you might find something else.
cool, looks like a nifty tool. Ofc when i tried it everything ran smoothly (might get all visitors to download it

)
I'll do some tests with it and see what comes up. I guess i'll be looking for a new host anyway
