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text sizer

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:59 pm
by solstice
Anyone...
I've been asked to implement a text sizer on CMSMS site.
the functionality I need is provided by this sort of tool...http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex9/textsizer.htm

However I'm wondering is that the best way to do it in CMSMS...has anyone any tips?

Re: text sizer

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:40 am
by JohnnyB
Here is my solution:
http://forum.cmsmadesimple.org/index.ph ... l#msg45025

post on that thread if you use it and then have any questions ;)

Re: text sizer

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:23 am
by kermit
never did understand the in-page font size changing...  duplicating a client browser configuration option on a web site is completely unnecessary.

font size is a *client* issue, not a web site issue. if a client requires a larger font size, chances are they want it on ALL sites, not just yours, and they can configure their browser accordingly... and if they need such adjustment, chances are they know where and how to do it.

define fonts properly (for ..ahem.. ie's sake), use a default font size that's "comparable" to that of other sites, and let the client's browser font size configuration do its job.

just my $0.02.

Re: text sizer

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:06 am
by solstice
The purpose of the text re-sizer is for visually impaired people. As well as being disabled, many users wont be IT savvy. Very few non web professionals, disabled or otherwise, realise that they can resize text using their browser. I think youre looking at life through tech-y eyes!

Re: text sizer

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:50 am
by cyberman
solstice wrote: However I'm wondering is that the best way to do it in CMSMS...
Thanks for that link ... works for me, please look here

http://test.cmsmadesimple.de/

Re: text sizer

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:47 am
by solstice
yep..it looks good to me, and seems easy to implement...thats what I'll be using!
thanks for all comments above!

Andy

Re: text sizer

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:52 pm
by kermit
solstice wrote: The purpose of the text re-sizer is for visually impaired people. As well as being disabled, many users wont be IT savvy. Very few non web professionals, disabled or otherwise, realise that they can resize text using their browser. I think youre looking at life through tech-y eyes!
if they can't see your web site's text, they ain't gonna be able to see anything else on their screen in any program. their problem is not going to be unique to your web site only. these people will have already addressed the (whole) issue themselves so they can not only visit your site, but all web sites and use all the programs they use on their pc; or they are used to asking for help and know where to get it.

the only time someone should run into a font size issue on a specific single web site is if the web site uses too small of a default font size (not "comparable" to that which is used on other sites), or if it uses a method of declaring font sizes that is incompatible with internet explorer's buggy font-size adjustment. both of these are simple to fix in the site's css... and if a site's layout "breaks" when font sizes are changed via the browser, well then.. there's other things that need fixing first.

as far as being "visually impaired" -- they *know* their limitations and abilities better than you or i or anyone else. 99 of 100 (including myself, btw..) will already have their text size set large enough (in their os and/or browser) for them, already have an obscenely large monitor set at far too low a resolution for "normal" folk (like my former secretary who worked with a 21 inch CRT running at 640x480), have a separate screen magnifier between their eyeballs and the screen (like another former co-worker), have screen magnifying software, or have a combination of these common solutions already in use...

and i think you are grossly underestimating the 'non web professional' -- i've been supporting the 'clueless and hopeless' since the dos 3 days, and over 1000 of them nationwide the last (nearly) 8 years. they may not be the brightest when it comes to avoiding spyware or installing drivers, etc... but many are pretty sharp when they need to figure something out, a lot of them are smart enough to check the menus for answers, and virtually all of them know enough to ask for help when they need it.. especially for something at crucial as the ability to read the text on their screens.

Re: text sizer

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:48 pm
by solstice
Well,  the bottom line is this. My client (a disability support organisation) have seen this functionality on other sites and they think its a good idea. I'm not gonna argue with them!

Having said that, and just for the sake of argument, the logical conclusion of your argument is that websites should only have things which are completely necessary.  So they shouldnt  have click to go "back" buttons on them,  Or web search forms, or bookmark this page buttons, etc etc?  All those are, I agree, not necessary, but I for one find them handy! Youre being a bit purist about things arent you?
Theres lots of things  that are completely unnecessary, but quite nice to have!....automatic gearshifts, electric windows, last number redial buttons, TV remote controls,  smileys  ;)

Andy