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Moving to new server - for dummies!

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:28 am
by sioux
Now cmsms is so popular, it may be worth revisitng some of the help files in the documentation part of the website.

For instance I want to copy a large number of sites to a new server and bearing in mind that I only use ftp to upload and wouldn't know an SSH from a - well - anything, the following instructions aren't helping :-(

copy all files from old server to new server
Do you mean ftp ALL the exisitng files on the current folder onto my pc then re-ftping them to the new one? Or simply installing the basic cms as downloaded directly from this site?

dump database from the old server
I don't want to dump it do I? I want to keep it (just joking but others may not know what this means). What options should I select in PhpMyadmin when I want to back up the database?

insert dump to new database
Do I create a database with exactly the same name on the new server? And what happens if I can't?

edit config.php to match the new server
I think I understand this bit

check permissions against Install instructions
Do I run the install procedure i.e. www.mynewserver.com/install.php or is the site already available?

enjoy
I wish!!

I will happily write a non-tech-speak version of this for the documentation if I can get help to make it work in the first place.

Thanks :-)

Re: Moving to new server - for dummies!

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:52 am
by cyberman
sioux wrote: Now cmsms is so popular,
Is it?
it may be worth revisitng some of the help files in the documentation part of the website.
All users are invited to do that but no one do it  ::).
copy all files from old server to new server
Do you mean ftp ALL the exisitng files on the current folder onto my pc then re-ftping them to the new one?
Yep. But you can use a direct connection between servers too ...
dump database from the old server
What options should I select in PhpMyadmin when I want to back up the database?
Look at the phpmyadmin export option.
insert dump to new database
Do I create a database with exactly the same name on the new server?
Look at the phpmyadmin import option.
check permissions against Install instructions
Do I run the install procedure i.e. www.mynewserver.com/install.php or is the site already available?
It means you have to set permissions for some folders and files.
I will happily write a non-tech-speak version of this for the documentation if I can get help to make it work in the first place.
Sounds great.

Re: Moving to new server - for dummies!

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:14 pm
by Pierre M.
sioux wrote: Now cmsms is so popular, it may be worth revisitng some of the help files in the documentation part of the website.
...
I will happily write a non-tech-speak version of this for the documentation if I can get help to make it work in the first place.
Yes, great, just do it !
Improve the wiki everybody : non-tech-speak, hints, trouble shots, translations, FAQ...
There is a "documentation" and a "quality assurance" forum here. Use them to claim your works for review.
Enjoy :-)
Pierre M.

Re: Moving to new server - for dummies!

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:39 am
by slloyd
I would pay a million bucks to get step-by-step instructions for doing this. Since I can't figure it out, I'm stuck with the crappy host I'm currently with.

Although the documentation is very helpful at times, for non-programmers such as myself, there are major gaps in the instructions (assumes technical knowledge).

I've yet to be able to install a module because of constant permission errors. I've tried everything under the sun and still can't figure it out, so I can't even use cmsms to its fullest. :(

Re: Moving to new server - for dummies!

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:56 am
by cyberman
slloyd wrote: I've yet to be able to install a module because of constant permission errors.
I suggest forget ModuleManager and upload modules like in good old time via FTP  :). There are no permission problems ...

If modules are only available as xml file use a local webserver like xampp (www.apachefriends.org) and install CMSms and modules there. Then you will have access to all module files ...