Thanks... I'm already working on the text... To help I'm going to take out the sifr's... it's part of the issues... this will help alot...
But the flv... I just don't know what to do there... I'll just have to try to convence them to let me use the animation...
thanks for the help... I knew lanching ahead would be bad... I'll be back when I have the sifr replaced...
jeremyBass
Fishing Site
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JeremyBASS
Re: Fishing Site
ok... the sifr workaround is in the testing area...
would anyone that has had issues.. mind taking a look?
http://hellscanyonsportfishing.com/testing
I still think I boils down to the flippin flv file but the sifr is a good thing to knock out as well....
thanks
jeremyBass
would anyone that has had issues.. mind taking a look?
http://hellscanyonsportfishing.com/testing
I still think I boils down to the flippin flv file but the sifr is a good thing to knock out as well....
thanks
jeremyBass
Re: Fishing Site
Well, it doesn't hang my system as much as before, but the background animation is really jerky (annoyingly so) and movement within the site is very slow.
Also, resizing the window takes about a minute to "refresh" and settle into the new configuration.
Nullig
Also, resizing the window takes about a minute to "refresh" and settle into the new configuration.
Nullig
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JeremyBASS
Re: Fishing Site
Well... it has to be the flv file...
The odd thing is that the test systems do just fine.. I don't get it...
well time to work on the flv...
thanks for the help...
jeremyBass
The odd thing is that the test systems do just fine.. I don't get it...
well time to work on the flv...
thanks for the help...
jeremyBass
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JeremyBASS
Re: Fishing Site
Ok Happy to report there should be a noticeable difference in the site movement... lost ~20kb more of weight... sitting at ~80 kb (not includeing the FLV) on a dead download; with a ~8-10kb page to page weight and only ~17 requests (**1-2 page too page**)... It's still sporting a passing validation, and an "A" in yslow now too... still have a few ideas to do... but they are more long shots to try to save the flv so I make everyone happy 
anyways... any comments are welcomed... I want to get this as dailed in as I can... still on the block is flash block, PDAs and PS3, AJAX the whole thing and form it up... Thanks for the help... have a great one today...
jeremyBass
anyways... any comments are welcomed... I want to get this as dailed in as I can... still on the block is flash block, PDAs and PS3, AJAX the whole thing and form it up... Thanks for the help... have a great one today...jeremyBass
Re: Fishing Site
OK, it seems to be worse.
I went to the test page and it took about 5 minutes to load the background.
I counted 156 loops through connecting/waiting/downloading in the status bar.
The animation is still jerky.
Nullig
I went to the test page and it took about 5 minutes to load the background.
I counted 156 loops through connecting/waiting/downloading in the status bar.
The animation is still jerky.
Nullig
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JeremyBASS
Re: Fishing Site
that's it I'm switching the back ground... ...thanks for the help...jeremyBass
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JeremyBASS
Re: Fishing Site
the joys of working for someone... I need to make the flv work... well I’ve made some leaps... I have reduced the cpu load down again... by about 7-10% hopefully it's enough... I'm running out of room to lose weight...
Side note... in my test I discovered something odd to ponder on...
thou FF out performs IE in handling js, IE spanks FF by up to 15% with flash... at least that's what the numbers say...
Anyways... still need to fix the FF bug where it doesn't seem to like the flv stream via xml... so it seems on the first run... I assume
that is what Nullig is talking about...
If anyone that has had troubles viewing the site would be kind enough to take a new look that would be great... I don't think that a ~10% gain will buy me enough but never know since all the test pcs I have running it are doing great now... with the exception of the FF bug I now see...
not the testing area... it's all opened up... use http://www.hellscanyonsportfishing.com/ please
well of to try harder... thanks for the help...
jeremyBass
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JeremyBASS
Re: Fishing Site
oh oh... so I found out after alot of searching and tests.... h.264 is better then flv as far as the movie goes.. what I'm talk about goes farther then that ... yea the quality is better but I watched the cpu load and it was almost 80% less on the load then flv... I'll be working on this over the weekend to get this finished up....
the background still may live
thanks for the help....
jeremyBass
the background still may live
thanks for the help....
jeremyBass
Re: Fishing Site
Well, the background doesn't come up at all now. Tried it on a 2Ghz laptop with 1GB ram, FF 3.0, T3 connection and I've been able to browse the whole site for about 10 minutes, with the background still not coming up - the connecting/waiting/transferring status messages are looping like crazy.
I noticed on a lot of the pages that the first time they load, the "Content" text flows outside of the blue "box" at the bottom - as if the box hasn't stretched to contain the text. Outside of the lighter blue, the text is difficult to read. When you "refresh" the page, or return to it, the text is now within the "stretched" box.
Nullig
I noticed on a lot of the pages that the first time they load, the "Content" text flows outside of the blue "box" at the bottom - as if the box hasn't stretched to contain the text. Outside of the lighter blue, the text is difficult to read. When you "refresh" the page, or return to it, the text is now within the "stretched" box.
Nullig
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JeremyBASS
Re: Fishing Site
>>>Well, the background doesn't come up at all now
the h.264 will fix this as well as making it perform better... and I found a few more underlying issues there...
>>> as if the box hasn't stretched to contain the text.
the funny thing is that with all the fixes and speed-ups... the script now finishes before the content is all there... so in short.. I need to fix because the script ran to quick... this fix for that is to ***i think*** run the resize function after the first sizing... should wrap up the issues....
I'll be getting the new video later today in the H.264 format at which... it's on...
closer pixel by pixel... thanks for the help...
jeremyBass
the h.264 will fix this as well as making it perform better... and I found a few more underlying issues there...
>>> as if the box hasn't stretched to contain the text.
the funny thing is that with all the fixes and speed-ups... the script now finishes before the content is all there... so in short.. I need to fix because the script ran to quick... this fix for that is to ***i think*** run the resize function after the first sizing... should wrap up the issues....
I'll be getting the new video later today in the H.264 format at which... it's on...
closer pixel by pixel... thanks for the help...
jeremyBass
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JeremyBASS
Re: Fishing Site
the h.264 is the way.. be i still get the same issues in ff... ideas?
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nhaack
Re: Fishing Site
Hi Jeremy,
very interesting approach... video background with semi-transparent boxes above... nice. I would put a little more effort into the spacings and proportions... but after all... a very nice and (to me) new approach. I also wouldn't be too worried about PDAs and such.
Yes, theoretically a site should be as compatible as possible... I understand the concerns of the others, but as you said, sometimes it is a decision between cost and value and what the customer wants - regardless of what you tell them.
I haven't seen a combination of these techniques yet, very refreshing. I do not find it that distracting... it fits the theme.
Oh, and I don't have any troubles seeing the page. I am viewing with FF3 and IE7 on a 2MB connection (Quad-Core with 4GB).
Best
Nils
very interesting approach... video background with semi-transparent boxes above... nice. I would put a little more effort into the spacings and proportions... but after all... a very nice and (to me) new approach. I also wouldn't be too worried about PDAs and such.
Yes, theoretically a site should be as compatible as possible... I understand the concerns of the others, but as you said, sometimes it is a decision between cost and value and what the customer wants - regardless of what you tell them.
I haven't seen a combination of these techniques yet, very refreshing. I do not find it that distracting... it fits the theme.
Oh, and I don't have any troubles seeing the page. I am viewing with FF3 and IE7 on a 2MB connection (Quad-Core with 4GB).
Best
Nils
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JeremyBASS
Re: Fishing Site
>>>very interesting approach
thanks... it's just the start to... the core functions that drive it, are able to do much more then I'm showing here with little work... but as some have pointed out there are kinks to be worked out... but the best part is that you just add class.. so everything will validate and if no js... it still has some css to fall back on...
>>> I would put a little more effort into the spacings and proportions...
yeah this is only ~40-60 hours of refinement here... the scripts need lots of work... it’s …lets say … still in the beta
>>>>(to me) new approach
I'm pretty sure this is the only right now... but you never know... if some one has a better way I'm always open to ideas
thanks again for the comments...
***Update on the site... I have made the H.264 video switch... I looks like it's performing better on the 500mhz 98 IE6 machine... if anyone with the issues before have a chance to recheck that would be great
http://hellscanyonsportfishing.com/testing
Thou the player I think is having issues on FF3 (only now I think)…
hope everyone's weekend is great
jeremyBass
thanks... it's just the start to... the core functions that drive it, are able to do much more then I'm showing here with little work... but as some have pointed out there are kinks to be worked out... but the best part is that you just add class.. so everything will validate and if no js... it still has some css to fall back on...
>>> I would put a little more effort into the spacings and proportions...
yeah this is only ~40-60 hours of refinement here... the scripts need lots of work... it’s …lets say … still in the beta
>>>>(to me) new approach
I'm pretty sure this is the only right now... but you never know... if some one has a better way I'm always open to ideas
thanks again for the comments...
***Update on the site... I have made the H.264 video switch... I looks like it's performing better on the 500mhz 98 IE6 machine... if anyone with the issues before have a chance to recheck that would be great
http://hellscanyonsportfishing.com/testing
Thou the player I think is having issues on FF3 (only now I think)…
hope everyone's weekend is great
jeremyBass
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nhaack
Re: Fishing Site
Hi Jeremy,
your testing page doesn't work for me in FF3. And have you used a lower frame rate for the test page? I don't think it is a performance issue of the machine - in IE7 it's running, but it seems not as fluent as the previous version.
Best
Nils
your testing page doesn't work for me in FF3. And have you used a lower frame rate for the test page? I don't think it is a performance issue of the machine - in IE7 it's running, but it seems not as fluent as the previous version.
Best
Nils
