Searching for views module

oscarcookie · Post by **oscarcookie** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:54 am

We've been using cmsms for several years now, but we keep struggling with one concept:views in content.

Example:
A website had a list of references, which are stored in pages with a specific template, that allows to add specific fields, like images, description, etcetera
In several other templates, we would like to use a view on these pages, like an overview of last refs, a complete list, etc
We can use menu views to achieve this, and We've even experimented with the news module to use summary templates, but seowise, this wasn't a good choice.

Do we have other options next to the menu module or a custom module?

Thanks

Post by **velden** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:07 am

'Mist of' --> 'List of'?
http://dev.cmsmadesimple.org/projects/listit2

But if News module was not good because of SEO (which I don't understand) then this LI2 module won't either I guess.

Still, if you think 'list' have a look at ListitExtended (LI2).

oscarcookie · Post by **oscarcookie** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:40 am

velden wrote:'Mist of' --> 'List of'?
http://dev.cmsmadesimple.org/projects/listit2

But if News module was not good because of SEO (which I don't understand) then this LI2 module won't either I guess.

Still, if you think 'list' have a look at ListitExtended (LI2).

Stupid mobile keypad correction...

Whatever, yes, I meant list

The News module was not good SEO-wise, because of:
- URL's not containing the title of the post (in this case the name of the reference)
- the inability to add metadata in the detail pages

I would really like to create a view on a number of pages (eg children of the References section). I don't see listit do this...

Thanks for your reply btw

Post by **velden** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:01 am

oscarcookie wrote: The News module was not good SEO-wise, because of:
- URL's not containing the title of the post (in this case the name of the reference)

I don't know, if you say so.

oscarcookie wrote: - the inability to add metadata in the detail pages

That is not true. It can be done quite easily:

CMSMS first processes the </__body> part of a template and after the the <head>.
So if you set some variables in the News detail template, you can use those in the metatags in head. It is used a lot for SEO, titles, Open Graph tags etc.

Same applies to LI2 of course.

oscarcookie wrote: I would really like to create a view on a number of pages (eg children of the References section). I don't see listit do this...
Thanks for your reply btw

You are aware of the Category field? LI2 also has a filtering feature (I never used it, but I've seen examples). Think you would be surprised what can be done.

There is also a module (not sure, could be Cataloger) that might suite your needs. It adds a few extra content types to cmsms. You can add those like you add pages, but they have some extra functionality. I think kind of summary is one of them.

oscarcookie · Post by **oscarcookie** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:40 am

Forget about my remark of Listit. I only read the short description...

This seems to cover all my needs. The processus isn't that automated, but it's OK.

1. You create the reference-page
2. You create the reference in listit, where you can define 'content page' as a obligatory field
3. You can create as many views as you want of your list

Step 1 and 2 need to be repeated when adding new references, but that's ok.

Thanks

chandra · Post by **chandra** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:09 pm

You can define an individual url for every News article. With a little template modification in News backend it will be the same like the news title without an additional entry.

calguy1000 · Post by **calguy1000** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:29 pm

A: the whole point of modules like News and Listit is that you don't need to create a new page for each item. The modules manage their own data and provide different views and filtering.

B: News does support a couple of pretty URL formats, including
1: Specifying your own url
2: An default URL that includes the title of the article on the URL for SEO purposes

faglork · Post by **faglork** » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:18 am

oscarcookie wrote: 1. You create the reference-page
2. You create the reference in listit, where you can define 'content page' as a obligatory field
3. You can create as many views as you want of your list

Step 1 and 2 need to be repeated when adding new references, but that's ok.

IMHO you don't need that. The default url you get from listit2 contains
- a pre-defined directory name
- the chosen item alias

That should suffice for most SEO purposes, especially since the last update of the "google algorithm" which further downgraded the "keyword in url" factor (AFAIK).

What is more important, from a SEO point of view: Yo can use context-sensitive microformats in the templates (your "views"). See http://schema.org/

hth,
Alex

faglork · Post by **faglork** » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:33 am

chandra wrote:You can define an individual url for every News article. With a little template modification in News backend it will be the same like the news title without an additional entry.

News is a somewhat rudimentary module: For example, you can only assign ONE category for a given news item, and there is no admin search which is a real bummer as soon as you have more than a handfull items to manage.

Cheers,
Alex

chandra · Post by **chandra** » Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:14 am

If you want more than one category you can choose a fork of News module - CGBlog.

oscarcookie · Post by **oscarcookie** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:35 pm

Thanks everyone for the feedback. I learned a lot

And indeed, I do not need the 3 steps to create my references

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