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This is what CMSMS 'looks' for visually handicapped people

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Using a screenreader on CMSMS seems to work quite well!

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Well, the Javascript to add HR in the WYSIWYG editor doesn't infact add an HR

again, when adding a border to an image (such as this:
) it doesn't show up in Firefox or IE

And when making an image a button, you can add a border (like this:
images/logo1
) but the border doesn't show up in IE... shows correctly in firefox.

If you VIEW Source, both of these images have a border="2".... I love this CMS, but these limitations make it undesireable because of these bugs.

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Re: This is what CMSMS 'looks' for visually handicapped people

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glad to hear that screenreaders work nicely
Well, the Javascript to add HR in the WYSIWYG editor doesn't infact add an HR
Thats because true hr has been reserved for screenreaders / text mode browsers and will be hidden with accessibility stylesheet

you can change this behavior by editing the stylesheet and writing hr explicitly
again, when adding a border to an image (such as this:
) it doesn't show up in Firefox or IE
again this is in css and you can change it to whatever you like.

default templates are there to guide people on how to create their own templates..

hope this helps
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Re: This is what CMSMS 'looks' for visually handicapped people

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Screenreaders are sometimes pretty funny: Using CSS-option

display: none;

will cause a screenreader to skip the respective class / id / styled element and continue with the next "visible" content. So it might be no good idea to hide content with display: none if it is for screenreaders but "hide" the content by pushing it out of the viewport with absolute positioned elements and negative values.

I guess it is somewhere around the forum or look at www.natko.de to see what I mean.

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Re: This is what CMSMS 'looks' for visually handicapped people

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Besides that, Google will penalize sites using hidden divs, i.e. it will not index them!
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Re: This is what CMSMS 'looks' for visually handicapped people

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swgreed wrote:
Besides that, Google will penalize sites using hidden divs, i.e. it will not index them!
Any evidence of Google doing so? I think it's a myth ... we are using "display: none" on a PR7 website ...

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Re: This is what CMSMS 'looks' for visually handicapped people

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Both posts report that you will have to use inline-styles or stylesheets that are used inside the document itself (i.e. inside header). However I can think of a wide variety of techniques to use (from DOM-Scripting to excluding files / directories with robots.txt) where Google could never tell that the content is hidden. It's all in the concept of separating content from design ...

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