EU privacy cookie directive

[Jo Morg]

Interesting topic. The regulations seem like a pointless waste of everybody's time to me though.

I have to agree! But it seems that education is too expensive...

[applejack]

I thought that Google Analytics wasn't included but after reading further about it it seems as though it is.

This seems quite a nice implementation

http://cookiecuttr.com/

[calguy1000]

so... an interesting twist:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... ed-consent

[applejack]

The Guardian's own site does this "This site uses cookies. By continuing to browse the site you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Find out more here"

I am about to implement on a number of site the same rather than the more intrusive version in the link of my previous post.

[libralion]

Hi everybody,
The last week I implemented this cookie script on a couple of my websites. It works great!
http://civicuk.com/cookie-law/index
Isn't there a way that we can implement this on a CMSMS website? I really would love to do that.
You can watch the script in action here: http://www.tina-turner.nl/

Johanna

[applejack]

You can implement on CMSMS sites.

http://www.billiardhouse.co.uk
http://www.c-h-w.com

In this case you will only see it once unless you remove the cookie and it doesn't have the accept button extra but the cookie cutter code is only javascript so there is no reason why you can't do it on a CMSMS site.

[libralion]

You can implement on CMSMS sites.

http://www.seafin.co.uk
http://www.c-h-w.com

In this case you will only see it once unless you remove the cookie and it doesn't have the accept button extra but the cookie cutter code is only javascript so there is no reason why you can't do it on a CMSMS site.

Hi applejack,
That is great! I am interested in the way you did that on the http://www.seafin.co.uk website.
Where did you put the code? And where did you put the cookiecontrol js?
I tried to put the code in the template and the js file in the main folder on the server, but that didn't work.
And why did you remove the accept button? Because I think without it it isn't according to the law.

Johanna

[applejack]

I didn't use their code I wrote my own very simple jQuery routine as well as some css, view source and ye shall find. Additionally there is a UDT which sets / checks for a cookie.

I didn't use accept as there are many major sites such as the Guardian and other newspaper sites where they state by continuing to use the site a user agrees to the use of cookies or a user can change their browser settings. Therefore as far as I am concerned this does comply with the law and personally I think it is sufficient.

[libralion]

I didn't use their code I wrote my own very simple jQuery routine as well as some css, view source and ye shall find. Additionally there is a UDT which sets / checks for a cookie.

I didn't use accept as there are many major sites such as the Guardian and other newspaper sites where they state by continuing to use the site a user agrees to the use of cookies or a user can change their browser settings. Therefore as far as I am concerned this does comply with the law and personally I think it is sufficient.

Ok thanks. Maybe it is handy for other users of the CMSMS software to put this code and how to install it here somewhere. So that we can use it if we want.

Johanna

[paulbaker]

I didn't use accept as there are many major sites such as the Guardian and other newspaper sites where they state by continuing to use the site a user agrees to the use of cookies or a user can change their browser settings. Therefore as far as I am concerned this does comply with the law and personally I think it is sufficient.

+1 on that.

Here's another good example, a major UK cycling site - just a little link at the bottom with an explanation of each cookie:
http://www.sustrans.org.uk/hidden_secti ... se-cookies
"Most web browsers automatically accept cookies, but you can usually modify your browser setting to decline cookies if you prefer."

I believe as long as you've made some sort of effort to inform visitors about cookies and you're clear about what they are used for you'll be fine.

I also believe most (non-techy) web users neither know nor care anything about cookies. They just want to consume information. Having to click or OK anything just gets in the way.

[libralion]

I didn't use accept as there are many major sites such as the Guardian and other newspaper sites where they state by continuing to use the site a user agrees to the use of cookies or a user can change their browser settings. Therefore as far as I am concerned this does comply with the law and personally I think it is sufficient.

+1 on that.

Here's another good example, a major UK cycling site - just a little link at the bottom with an explanation of each cookie:
http://www.sustrans.org.uk/hidden_secti ... se-cookies
"Most web browsers automatically accept cookies, but you can usually modify your browser setting to decline cookies if you prefer."

I believe as long as you've made some sort of effort to inform visitors about cookies and you're clear about what they are used for you'll be fine.

I also believe most (non-techy) web users neither know nor care anything about cookies. They just want to consume information. Having to click or OK anything just gets in the way.

I don't know about the UK, but the Dutch law spefically states that you have to ask permission before you can place cookies.

I found a little script that works fine. Just upload and ad this code just after the body tag in the template with the literal tags.(<__script__ type="text/javascript" src="cookiewarning.js"></__script>)
You can download it here: http://code.google.com/p/cookie-warning ... warning.js

And here are some more websites with scripts:
http://www.civicuk.com/cookie-law/index
http://cookiecuttr.com/
http://code.google.com/p/cookie-warning/
http://data66.info/demo/
http://www.portent.com/blog/design-dev/ ... ie-law.htm
http://danny.gb.net/cookie-law/script/

Johanna

[libralion]

Hi everybody,
Somebody found a solution to implement the cookie control from Civic in CMSMS.
You can read about it here: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/cooki ... discussion
But I don't understand what it means. Can somebody explain me in steps what it means and how I can implement it in CMSMS?
Thanks.

Johanna

[libralion]

Hi everybody,
For those interested in implementing the Cookie Control script from Civic, I have found the solution.
Open the Cookie Control js and find the <a id="cctoggle" href="#"></a> and change this to a button. <button id="cctoggle" href="#"></button>.
Then upload it to your CMSMS folder on your server and include the script just before the <__body> tag(with the literal tags of course) in your template. Be sure to create a Privacy Policy page and change the url in the script to that page.
That's all. It works perfect.
Big thanks to Jodie!

Johanna

[Rolf]

I don't know about the UK, but the Dutch law spefically states that you have to ask permission before you can place cookies.

No, the Dutch law does not state that.
Even the website of the Dutch government just has a "cookie" link in the footer, with a text like "we put cookies at your computer, what are they for and how can YOU prevent them in your webbrowser..."

Some related Dutch government links:
http://www.rijksoverheid.nl/cookies
http://www.waarschuwingsdienst.nl/Risic ... ivacy.html
http://www.waarschuwingsdienst.nl/Veili ... wsers.html

And beside that, the cookie law is an European law, so will be the same in all EU countries...

[libralion]

I don't know about the UK, but the Dutch law spefically states that you have to ask permission before you can place cookies.

No, the Dutch law does not state that.
Even the website of the Dutch government just has a "cookie" link in the footer, with a text like "we put cookies at your computer, what are they for and how can YOU prevent them in your webbrowser..."

Some related Dutch government links:
http://www.rijksoverheid.nl/cookies
http://www.waarschuwingsdienst.nl/Risic ... ivacy.html
http://www.waarschuwingsdienst.nl/Veili ... wsers.html

And beside that, the cookie law is an European law, so will be the same in all EU countries...

Sorry to disagree, but the new Dutch law does state that.
Read here: http://www.rijksoverheid.nl/documenten- ... rking.html

"Het betreffende artikel Art 11.7a is onderdeel van Hoofdstuk 11 "bescherming van de persoonlijke levenssfeer" van de Telecomwet, en stelt (o.a.):

Onverminderd de Wet bescherming persoonsgegevens dient een ieder die door middel van elektronische communicatienetwerken toegang wenst te verkrijgen tot gegevens die zijn opgeslagen in de randapparatuur van een gebruiker dan wel gegevens wenst op te slaan in de randapparatuur van de gebruiker:

a. de gebruiker duidelijke en volledige informatie te verstrekken overeenkomstig de Wet bescherming persoonsgegevens, en in ieder geval omtrent de doeleinden waarvoor men toegang wenst te verkrijgen tot de desbetreffende gegevens dan wel waarvoor men gegevens wenst op te slaan, en

b. van de gebruiker toestemming te hebben verkregen voor de desbetreffende handeling."

http://www.rijksoverheid.nl/documenten- ... rking.html

Johanna