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Re: Multi-Language Websites Poll

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:51 am
by calguy1000
If you guys are looking to add some new sort of MLE feature to CMSMS
Nope... we're not 'looking' to do anything at this time. Just gathering a statistic.
EDIT: Please! do not read anything into this poll at all.

Re: Multi-Language Websites Poll

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:57 am
by calguy1000
The last working version of that module worked with CMSMS 1.8.2, and unfortunately, all my clients are stuck on that version, and I cannot upgrade them. (I even have Government of Canada websites running CMSMS MLE)
I suggest you change those sites immediately as the 1.8.2 series and other versions of CMSMS have very well known and well advertised security flaws.

BTW, the MLE thing was not a 'module' it was an unauthorized fork, that due to it's naming and where it was hosted caused alot of confusion and difficulty for people that support CMSMS and the third party modules.

Re: Multi-Language Websites Poll

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:58 am
by amin30b
Thanks for this discussion.
I have a website in Farsi language and newly I need to have its content in English language too.
Now I should do many tips and tricks to have a well structured multi-language website, but I hope development team put multi-language capabilities in the core and make this process easier to do in every place that the output can be displayed in second language.

Re: Multi-Language Websites Poll

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:33 am
by Assange
gocreative wrote:in instances where my clients have required multiple languages, I've simple added Google Translate to the footer.
That's not really a professional solution - if you want to have a funny evening use google translator.

Re: Multi-Language Websites Poll

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:27 am
by essexboyracer
In 11 years of web development, I have only ever needed some sort of multi-language capacity in a website once.

Re: Multi-Language Websites Poll

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:48 am
by nxthor
I need to manage sites at the university in at least german and english.
My curent workaround is a session variable "lang" that contains the lang-identifier ("de" or "en" for now, template has links to current page with "?lang=en|de" to switch, after switch var stays in session) and I have added content fields for additional content, title, menu-title, etc. So I can switch in my templates between language-blocks according to the session-var.
To get the content blocks even if not shown, I would assign them in the beginning of each template into variables. Usage of label and options like oneline or no-wysiwyg is great here.
Found very good use with my solution, since I have all information to one page in one place, and can sort everything easily.

If you consider to implement multi-language support something close to this could be a solution, since i see no option in having two, three or more separate trees of the same content, that one would have to manage all the same.

Is there a widely used approach to that problem anyway?

best regards!
nxthor

Re: Multi-Language Websites Poll

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:24 am
by SanderBroek
MLE was an option until 1.8.2. So all projects with languages involved are delivered now to old versions.

If the core team decides to not incorporate language features, it's a NO to all international businesses. I mean, all business operating in more than one language areas.

Re: Multi-Language Websites Poll

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:25 am
by denli
I do this ;D :
http://www.i-do-this.com/blog/25/Anothe ... CMSMS-Page , Goran (and Ron) has saved me more than ones with there tutorials ;)

it works great and doesn't break into the core!
Easy to set up for me and uses already existing modules (also from calguy) to make it work.

What I also like about it it doesn't put extra paths in the URL like for example. domain.com/EN/home or domain.com/NL/home etc.
It just gives nice clean URLs also.

And almost everything I need to call into my pages that also needs to bee in the right language is achievable so var.

I have had some little trouble with the show-time module but thats solved also!

Re: Multi-Language Websites Poll

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:27 am
by denli
SanderBroek wrote:MLE was an option until 1.8.2. So all projects with languages involved are delivered now to old versions.

If the core team decides to not incorporate language features, it's a NO to all international businesses. I mean, all business operating in more than one language areas.
Than you really need to look at my post I just made! It works great and no problems updating to the latest version so far.

Re: Multi-Language Websites Poll

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:27 am
by SanderBroek
calguy1000 wrote: I suggest you change those sites immediately as the 1.8.2 series and other versions of CMSMS have very well known and well advertised security flaws.
There's no serious alternative...
denli wrote:Than you really need to look at my post I just made! It works great and no problems updating to the latest version so far.
We did. Really great post. It works perfectly for small/easy websites. But it's not an option within bigger organisations.

Re: Multi-Language Websites Poll

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:43 am
by gocreative
Assange wrote:
gocreative wrote:in instances where my clients have required multiple languages, I've simple added Google Translate to the footer.
That's not really a professional solution - if you want to have a funny evening use google translator.
I have only ever done this twice, both on websites which used CMS's that I had no control over - only the content/templates. And neither of those sites ran CMS Made Simple. Anyway, it was good enough for the Queensland Government.

Re: Multi-Language Websites Poll

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:02 am
by denli
A view international sites build with CMSMS would not heart its exposure ;) and all the benefits that it will bring!

Re: Multi-Language Websites Poll

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:02 am
by faglork
Hi,

about 50% of my sites are ML or plan to go ML. Mostly German/English.

I currently use the MleCMS module and it works well, although I would wish to have the content edited in adjacent tabs for fast switching.

Maybe it would suffice to add better ML support for 3rd party modules?

Cheers,
Alex

Re: Multi-Language Websites Poll

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:08 pm
by dmagill
I have to agree with joecannes on this one. Not to snub anyone for their hard work, and I do understand why the schism, but the MLE was and still is handy as hell. I have a few sites sitting in limbo now.

Re: Multi-Language Websites Poll

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:39 pm
by radoado
In addition to support MLE in the pages i need and MLE functionality in modules (Products, Gallery, Company Directory).