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With respect to multi-language websites, please tell us about your needs:
Poll ended at Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:55 pm
I regularly need to create multi-language websites 50%  50%  [ 126 ]
I have an occasional need for multi-language websites 34%  34%  [ 85 ]
I never need to create multi-language websites 16%  16%  [ 41 ]
Total votes : 252
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:51 am 
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If you guys are looking to add some new sort of MLE feature to CMSMS


Nope... we're not 'looking' to do anything at this time. Just gathering a statistic.
EDIT: Please! do not read anything into this poll at all.

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The last working version of that module worked with CMSMS 1.8.2, and unfortunately, all my clients are stuck on that version, and I cannot upgrade them. (I even have Government of Canada websites running CMSMS MLE)


I suggest you change those sites immediately as the 1.8.2 series and other versions of CMSMS have very well known and well advertised security flaws.

BTW, the MLE thing was not a 'module' it was an unauthorized fork, that due to it's naming and where it was hosted caused alot of confusion and difficulty for people that support CMSMS and the third party modules.

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Thanks for this discussion.
I have a website in Farsi language and newly I need to have its content in English language too.
Now I should do many tips and tricks to have a well structured multi-language website, but I hope development team put multi-language capabilities in the core and make this process easier to do in every place that the output can be displayed in second language.


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gocreative wrote:
in instances where my clients have required multiple languages, I've simple added Google Translate to the footer.


That's not really a professional solution - if you want to have a funny evening use google translator.


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In 11 years of web development, I have only ever needed some sort of multi-language capacity in a website once.


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I need to manage sites at the university in at least german and english.
My curent workaround is a session variable "lang" that contains the lang-identifier ("de" or "en" for now, template has links to current page with "?lang=en|de" to switch, after switch var stays in session) and I have added content fields for additional content, title, menu-title, etc. So I can switch in my templates between language-blocks according to the session-var.
To get the content blocks even if not shown, I would assign them in the beginning of each template into variables. Usage of label and options like oneline or no-wysiwyg is great here.
Found very good use with my solution, since I have all information to one page in one place, and can sort everything easily.

If you consider to implement multi-language support something close to this could be a solution, since i see no option in having two, three or more separate trees of the same content, that one would have to manage all the same.

Is there a widely used approach to that problem anyway?

best regards!
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MLE was an option until 1.8.2. So all projects with languages involved are delivered now to old versions.

If the core team decides to not incorporate language features, it's a NO to all international businesses. I mean, all business operating in more than one language areas.


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I do this ;D :
http://www.i-do-this.com/blog/25/Anothe ... CMSMS-Page , Goran (and Ron) has saved me more than ones with there tutorials ;)

it works great and doesn't break into the core!
Easy to set up for me and uses already existing modules (also from calguy) to make it work.

What I also like about it it doesn't put extra paths in the URL like for example. domain.com/EN/home or domain.com/NL/home etc.
It just gives nice clean URLs also.

And almost everything I need to call into my pages that also needs to bee in the right language is achievable so var.

I have had some little trouble with the show-time module but thats solved also!


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SanderBroek wrote:
MLE was an option until 1.8.2. So all projects with languages involved are delivered now to old versions.

If the core team decides to not incorporate language features, it's a NO to all international businesses. I mean, all business operating in more than one language areas.


Than you really need to look at my post I just made! It works great and no problems updating to the latest version so far.


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I suggest you change those sites immediately as the 1.8.2 series and other versions of CMSMS have very well known and well advertised security flaws.


There's no serious alternative...

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Than you really need to look at my post I just made! It works great and no problems updating to the latest version so far.


We did. Really great post. It works perfectly for small/easy websites. But it's not an option within bigger organisations.


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gocreative wrote:
in instances where my clients have required multiple languages, I've simple added Google Translate to the footer.

That's not really a professional solution - if you want to have a funny evening use google translator.

I have only ever done this twice, both on websites which used CMS's that I had no control over - only the content/templates. And neither of those sites ran CMS Made Simple. Anyway, it was good enough for the Queensland Government.


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A view international sites build with CMSMS would not heart its exposure ;) and all the benefits that it will bring!


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Hi,

about 50% of my sites are ML or plan to go ML. Mostly German/English.

I currently use the MleCMS module and it works well, although I would wish to have the content edited in adjacent tabs for fast switching.

Maybe it would suffice to add better ML support for 3rd party modules?

Cheers,
Alex


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Here in Swizterland it's a need to have multiple languages.
I'm still using MLE for that!
Sometimes I don't need a page in a language. Then it would be nice if the flag Pages->Options "Show in Menu" would work separatly on every language, and not global as yet.
Regards
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I have to agree with joecannes on this one. Not to snub anyone for their hard work, and I do understand why the schism, but the MLE was and still is handy as hell. I have a few sites sitting in limbo now.


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