CMSMS vs Drupal ?
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cyberman
Re: CMSMS vs Drupal ?
Think you cannot make a real compare between these CMS.
Drupal is (much) older and has a lot more developing steps (Drupal 5.1 since 2000, CMSms 1.0.5 since 2004). So it has a lot more active developers and modules too.
Under these conditions CMSms is IMHO the better one. Maybe Drupal has more options but I'm missing the CMSms "easiness", it's not so intuitive. CMSms is a good CMS for homepages.
If you want to have a community site its better to use someone like Drupal or Xoops. Yes, it's possible too with CMSms but it's a little bit more difficult.
Hope that helps ...
Drupal is (much) older and has a lot more developing steps (Drupal 5.1 since 2000, CMSms 1.0.5 since 2004). So it has a lot more active developers and modules too.
Under these conditions CMSms is IMHO the better one. Maybe Drupal has more options but I'm missing the CMSms "easiness", it's not so intuitive. CMSms is a good CMS for homepages.
If you want to have a community site its better to use someone like Drupal or Xoops. Yes, it's possible too with CMSms but it's a little bit more difficult.
Hope that helps ...
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heatherfeuer
Re: CMSMS vs Drupal ?
Leaving CMSms out of it, I think I would choose Xoops over Drupal because Xoops makes better use of Smarty templates. However, Cyberman is correct in his assessment. CMSms is, by far, one of the easiest to use of all the CMS software out there.
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moorezilla
Re: CMSMS vs Drupal ?
If you have the time and patience to play around with it, Drupal is quite good for, as is stated above, community sites. If you want to have a lot of your content produced by others, and if you want to reuse snippets of information in different forms in different places, it does this well. If you don't know php very well, you may find that customizing Drupal is difficult.
Something else to note is that Drupal is not afraid to break backward compatibility as it moves forward. This is very good in that the underlying code has the potential to get much better without bloating, but it's bad if you've written a lot of code that only works in an older generation... if that makes sense. Every project runs into this to a certain degree (like cmsms demanding php5 for it's next version), but it can be pretty severe in Drupal depending on how much you tinker with the code.
I've used both Drupal and CMSMS and I like them both, but I find CMSMS much easier to use and much easier to upgrade. Drupal does have a lot more plugins available, but honestly, CMSMS has most of the bases covered with plugins... at least for my needs.
I'm a very lazy person, and CMSMS allows me to be lazier than Drupal.
Something else to note is that Drupal is not afraid to break backward compatibility as it moves forward. This is very good in that the underlying code has the potential to get much better without bloating, but it's bad if you've written a lot of code that only works in an older generation... if that makes sense. Every project runs into this to a certain degree (like cmsms demanding php5 for it's next version), but it can be pretty severe in Drupal depending on how much you tinker with the code.
I've used both Drupal and CMSMS and I like them both, but I find CMSMS much easier to use and much easier to upgrade. Drupal does have a lot more plugins available, but honestly, CMSMS has most of the bases covered with plugins... at least for my needs.
I'm a very lazy person, and CMSMS allows me to be lazier than Drupal.
Re: CMSMS vs Drupal ?
CMSMS IS THE BEST BUDDY!
Here's why:
Its the most versatile and easy to go CMS ever.
I had my site up in less than 2 days.
Everything can be changed and everything is just so easy.
I've tried mambo and all those and they suck compared to this one.
Here's why:
Its the most versatile and easy to go CMS ever.
I had my site up in less than 2 days.
Everything can be changed and everything is just so easy.
I've tried mambo and all those and they suck compared to this one.
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Bobonov
Re: CMSMS vs Drupal ?
I had tested several CMS, starting from some basic points:
I am not the only person that use it and manage the contents
Most of the people are not so skilled as I am on the computer
The learning process have to be very fast and simple because I do not want to bother to explain thousand times the same process
Normal User does not read any documentation, so the system MUST be intuitive or at least easily explainable
I Installed several CMS from typo3 to mambo, from drupal to nuke and its variant and so on.
Beside reading docs on how to install them installing, I didn't want to read anything else.
In this way I tested the how simple and intuitive is the system.
Beside the power of certain cms, for most of them I had a lot of difficulties in understanding how to change contents.
They were not so intuitive and for almost all of them I didn't get a clue on how to change the style, beside downloading pre made templates.
With cms made simple was a paradise, or like taking an holyday
, compared to all the other.
After installing it, I just clicked a bit around and found out how to change contents, let's say 30 minutes.
After finished with the content, it took me just half day to enter in the mechanism of personalising the website style.
At the end of the week I have been able to change and personalize completely my website, menu templates, installing and managing modules and so on.
So I decided that the learning process was very fast, ie for typo3, maybe I am stupid, but after 3 days I barely understood how to change the contents.
Basically I decided that if it took me 30 minutes to "master" the contents changing, it could not take more than 3 days (without any help) to any other kind of user.
Another important parameter for my choice was the level of style personalisation you can reach.
For sure I didn't go to deep with the other cms, but after a week my learning process was going to slow, but as my impression the others weren't, at least, so easily to personalise.
I am not the only person that use it and manage the contents
Most of the people are not so skilled as I am on the computer
The learning process have to be very fast and simple because I do not want to bother to explain thousand times the same process
Normal User does not read any documentation, so the system MUST be intuitive or at least easily explainable
I Installed several CMS from typo3 to mambo, from drupal to nuke and its variant and so on.
Beside reading docs on how to install them installing, I didn't want to read anything else.
In this way I tested the how simple and intuitive is the system.
Beside the power of certain cms, for most of them I had a lot of difficulties in understanding how to change contents.
They were not so intuitive and for almost all of them I didn't get a clue on how to change the style, beside downloading pre made templates.
With cms made simple was a paradise, or like taking an holyday
, compared to all the other.After installing it, I just clicked a bit around and found out how to change contents, let's say 30 minutes.
After finished with the content, it took me just half day to enter in the mechanism of personalising the website style.
At the end of the week I have been able to change and personalize completely my website, menu templates, installing and managing modules and so on.
So I decided that the learning process was very fast, ie for typo3, maybe I am stupid, but after 3 days I barely understood how to change the contents.
Basically I decided that if it took me 30 minutes to "master" the contents changing, it could not take more than 3 days (without any help) to any other kind of user.
Another important parameter for my choice was the level of style personalisation you can reach.
For sure I didn't go to deep with the other cms, but after a week my learning process was going to slow, but as my impression the others weren't, at least, so easily to personalise.
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cyberman
Re: CMSMS vs Drupal ?
@Bobonov
Wow, that's a very informative comparing statement for CMSms so I would like to set it to page http://cmsmadesimple.org/main/what_our_users_say
Would you pn me your real name (and maybe a link
) so I can release it ?
Wow, that's a very informative comparing statement for CMSms so I would like to set it to page http://cmsmadesimple.org/main/what_our_users_say
Would you pn me your real name (and maybe a link
) so I can release it ?-
Bob
Re: CMSMS vs Drupal ?
Joomlaaaaa!!!!!!
I got enough paper printouts for their directions to keep my house warm for a solid winter
Unfortunately, CMSms didn't give me to much to print out for instructions... I pretty much installed it and got going on it.. on a couple of sites now (that's 2 more than I did using Joomla/Moomba whatever)
Well, I say "kill a few trees; get Joomla and print out the instructions"
...or be a tree hugger and get CMSms!
I got enough paper printouts for their directions to keep my house warm for a solid winter
Unfortunately, CMSms didn't give me to much to print out for instructions... I pretty much installed it and got going on it.. on a couple of sites now (that's 2 more than I did using Joomla/Moomba whatever)
Well, I say "kill a few trees; get Joomla and print out the instructions"
...or be a tree hugger and get CMSms!
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Pierre M.
Re: CMSMS vs Drupal ?
Wahoo ! I didn't know this nice page. Shouldn't the link to it on the main page be on the left near "features" ?cyberman wrote: @Bobonov http://cmsmadesimple.org/main/what_our_users_say
Pierre M.
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cyberman
Re: CMSMS vs Drupal ?
Hi Pierre,
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Link IS in content of main (first) page - please look at content right bottom (link "What our users say about CMSMS")Pierre M. wrote: Shouldn't the link to it on the main page be on the left near "features" ?
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Pierre M.
Re: CMSMS vs Drupal ?
Hi Cyberman !cyberman wrote: Hi Pierre,
Yescyberman wrote:Link IS in content of main (first) page - please look at content right bottom (link "What our users say about CMSMS")Pierre M. wrote: Shouldn't the link to it on the main page be on the left near "features" ?
I had seen this link I was talking about ("the link to it *on the main page*").
I was suggesting to promote this (users testify) by placing it on the left of the main page (near "features"). Just cosmetic and I'm bad at cosmetics.
Pierre M.
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cyberman
Re: CMSMS vs Drupal ?
Okay, okay - I've activated to show in menuPierre M. wrote: I was suggesting to promote this (users testify) by placing it on the left of the main page (near "features").
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calguy1000
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Re: CMSMS vs Drupal ?
Cyberman..... can we change the menu text or something to be a bit more descriptive?
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dawgdaz
Re: CMSMS vs Drupal ?
I've used several other CMS systems, I'm currently running one site under Joomla and WordPress. I have to say that CMSms seems easier from the "user" standpoint. In other words, if I'm setting a site up for someone to manage it themselves, CMSms is great. From the administrators perspective, the control panel is super easy but I'm not getting the modules implementation down very well. To be honest I've only been on CMSms a few days. It's also worth noting that I have no experience with SMARTY or ADODB and ( 
) I'm still making the move over from tables to CSS (don't laugh). But I like what I'm seeing regardless. Yes, Joomla has every module you can imagine but keeping them upgraded and secure is another story. That's what has attracted me to CMSms. I want something organized, well thought out, and secure. If I have to upgrade a bunch of client sites in the future, I need a CMS system with those qualities. Like I said, I'm new to this so the jury is still out.
) I'm still making the move over from tables to CSS (don't laugh). But I like what I'm seeing regardless. Yes, Joomla has every module you can imagine but keeping them upgraded and secure is another story. That's what has attracted me to CMSms. I want something organized, well thought out, and secure. If I have to upgrade a bunch of client sites in the future, I need a CMS system with those qualities. Like I said, I'm new to this so the jury is still out. 