Hi,
I am still pretty much learning website design and am ok with static sites but clients are asking for content managed sites. I came across CMS made simple and it impressed me particularly because I can still build my sites with standards compliant xhtml and css. But I was wondering if anyone could answer a couple of silly questions for me. 1. For me to develop the site for a client I need to have a server and mySQL installed on my computer don't I? and b) The client does not have these things on their own computer (their site is with a host) so how do they manage it? On line (logged on to the internet?). Thank you so much.
how does my client manage their website?
Re: how does my client manage their website?
gtojulie,
either you should have it installed on a server, or you should have a hosting-provider that supports it. If you've downloaded the package, you can unpack it and then transfer it to your domain. By then going to that URL, the package will start installation where CMSMS will be setup. Basically the content, CSS and templates will end up in the DB. If you've done so, the website is visible at that URL, if you type URL/admin, you'll get the login-screen for the administration. There you can maintain the site. If you (as an admin) have full rights, you can install modules, create/delete templates, connect templates to CSS-es etc..... If you create users, and assign them to the group "Editor" for example, you can administer the rights for those users. You can set it to only add or only edit content, change order of menus , have the rights to delete content etc....
So basically the complete site is available on-line (either by hosting-company or by a server that makes it online). The total site is than maintanable through the same URL as the site is visible, only you do that through the backend (administration), which is accessible through URL/admin.
Best regards,
Ronny
either you should have it installed on a server, or you should have a hosting-provider that supports it. If you've downloaded the package, you can unpack it and then transfer it to your domain. By then going to that URL, the package will start installation where CMSMS will be setup. Basically the content, CSS and templates will end up in the DB. If you've done so, the website is visible at that URL, if you type URL/admin, you'll get the login-screen for the administration. There you can maintain the site. If you (as an admin) have full rights, you can install modules, create/delete templates, connect templates to CSS-es etc..... If you create users, and assign them to the group "Editor" for example, you can administer the rights for those users. You can set it to only add or only edit content, change order of menus , have the rights to delete content etc....
So basically the complete site is available on-line (either by hosting-company or by a server that makes it online). The total site is than maintanable through the same URL as the site is visible, only you do that through the backend (administration), which is accessible through URL/admin.
Best regards,
Ronny
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gtojulie
Re: how does my client manage their website?
Thank you very much Ronnie, your reply explained it well.
Mandy (aka gtojulie)
Mandy (aka gtojulie)
Re: how does my client manage their website?
gtojulie,
the idea behind CMS is that the template, styling (CSS) and content are seperately maintainable. That means that a user that can add content, attaches the content to a template. The template is in fact attached to the css-es. All the user has to do is type text. This will end up in the structure/menu if they have the rights to add content.
Ronny
the idea behind CMS is that the template, styling (CSS) and content are seperately maintainable. That means that a user that can add content, attaches the content to a template. The template is in fact attached to the css-es. All the user has to do is type text. This will end up in the structure/menu if they have the rights to add content.
Ronny
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gtojulie
Re: how does my client manage their website?
Ronny, I hope you wouldnt mind answering another question for me since you helped me so well earlier. The more I look around this website and had I trouble figuring how to download the package (I am so used to one click to download other software I've installed on my computer) and I still havent done it - waiting for some help on that too, I was wondering if I need to know programming languages (php is it) to be able to built sides for this cms? Thanks again. Mandy.
Re: how does my client manage their website?
Mandy,
if you go to "MAIN" as shown in the header menu, you'll end up on a page that says "Download latest release". There you'll find the total package (currently 1.0.4) that can be downloaded, f.e. the zip-file. If you've downloaded it, you can unzip it and FTP the total package to your webserver. By going to that link, you'll start the installation as described earlier. After installation you can/should delete the INSTALL-folder on your webserver as it shouldn't remain there.
Basically you don't need any PHP programming experience, as you can style with the use of template, CSS and put content on the page. You only need PHP-programming oif you want some extra features that aren't around. If you want existing features/modules/tags, you can find them on the site, through the menu "DEVELOPMENT".
If you f.e. want to use calendar, banners, guestbooks, or different kind of modules, you can download them through "Module Manager" which show different modules that can be installed. You can also upload XML, downloaded from the "DEV", or download, unzip and then transfer to the modules-directory.
Calling modules is like putting:
{cms_module module='album'}
on a page, that calls a module and shows the data.
So after styling and installing modules, it's nothing more than putting content on the pages and calling the modules. Help is available in all areas to show how that module/tag etc... can be called with what optional parameters.
Ronny
P.S. If you want to look inside, I can PM you a login/pw to one of my test-sites.
if you go to "MAIN" as shown in the header menu, you'll end up on a page that says "Download latest release". There you'll find the total package (currently 1.0.4) that can be downloaded, f.e. the zip-file. If you've downloaded it, you can unzip it and FTP the total package to your webserver. By going to that link, you'll start the installation as described earlier. After installation you can/should delete the INSTALL-folder on your webserver as it shouldn't remain there.
Basically you don't need any PHP programming experience, as you can style with the use of template, CSS and put content on the page. You only need PHP-programming oif you want some extra features that aren't around. If you want existing features/modules/tags, you can find them on the site, through the menu "DEVELOPMENT".
If you f.e. want to use calendar, banners, guestbooks, or different kind of modules, you can download them through "Module Manager" which show different modules that can be installed. You can also upload XML, downloaded from the "DEV", or download, unzip and then transfer to the modules-directory.
Calling modules is like putting:
{cms_module module='album'}
on a page, that calls a module and shows the data.
So after styling and installing modules, it's nothing more than putting content on the pages and calling the modules. Help is available in all areas to show how that module/tag etc... can be called with what optional parameters.
Ronny
P.S. If you want to look inside, I can PM you a login/pw to one of my test-sites.
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gtojulie
Re: how does my client manage their website?
Ronny,
Again thanks very much. Your answers are very helpful and I'll refer back to them as I take the next step which is getting it on to the host server (I've now downloaded cms made simple and found a host here in the UK that supports it). Now I am assured that I dont need to know php, I'll have fun experimenting and going through that manual that Pierre keeps telling me about!
Mandy
Again thanks very much. Your answers are very helpful and I'll refer back to them as I take the next step which is getting it on to the host server (I've now downloaded cms made simple and found a host here in the UK that supports it). Now I am assured that I dont need to know php, I'll have fun experimenting and going through that manual that Pierre keeps telling me about!
Mandy
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streever
Re: how does my client manage their website?
Pierre's response is a little mean 
but still valid--http://wiki.cmsmadesimple.org/index.php ... dbook--the first link is for installation.
It's very easy, and this guide really breaks it down nicely. When I first looked at CMSMS, only the tag-line (So easy, it feels like taking a holiday, etc) kept me here--I was way too intimidated by my own lack of knowledge.
Then, I read the manual, and it becamse so clear
.
Good luck
but still valid--http://wiki.cmsmadesimple.org/index.php ... dbook--the first link is for installation.It's very easy, and this guide really breaks it down nicely. When I first looked at CMSMS, only the tag-line (So easy, it feels like taking a holiday, etc) kept me here--I was way too intimidated by my own lack of knowledge.
Then, I read the manual, and it becamse so clear
.Good luck
Re: how does my client manage their website?
Mark, I noticed that your comments module is working quite differently than the one on my site where I'm having trouble. Can you take a look at the thread I started about the problem:
http://forum.cmsmadesimple.org/index.ph ... 445.0.html
http://forum.cmsmadesimple.org/index.ph ... 445.0.html
Last edited by slloyd on Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:07 am, edited 1 time in total.
