Why is TinyMCE not included/preinstalled any more in CMSMS 0.11beta4 ?? Topic is solved

[tigercat]

TinyMCE is a very good editor. But why is it removed from CMSMS 0.11beta4?? It was included in beta2.
On www.cmsmadesimple.org it cannot be downloaded.
Any reasons for FCK?? It does not work as good in Firefox Portable.

[Ted]

The idea was that we would switch to FCK because it had some better output and some nice custom CMSMS related plugins in it.

However, I've gotten the feeling that people don't like it that much either.  Not sure what I'm going to do yet.

Anyway, I think it's still in beta4.  You would have to install it (via Extensions->Modules) and then set it as your WYSIWYG of choice in the User Preferences.

[Jan Stoll]

I think the FCK Editor is quite nice. I really like the idea of choosing different templates within the editor.
Im not sure what people dont like about the FCK. I just have some image upload problems but I think that could be fixed.

[tigercat]

Hi Jan Stoll / wishy.
Thanks for your reply.

... I just have some image upload problems but I think that could be fixed....

That's exactly the problem. I cannot choose images to be inserted into my site. Where does FCKeditor look for uploaded pictures. And where does it store new pictures / folders?
It does not look in the CMSMS folder /uploads/images/ like i would expect. Can I set some config to point to this folder?
This is one reason why I like the image-administration within TinyMCE.

Some strange effects are still there on CMSMS with different WYSIWYG-editors and different browsers. After I have installed my project (beta4) on my webpage I now cannot use TinyMCE any more. All I get is the plain HTML-content instead of the editor ;-(( With beta2 on localhost everything worked fine.

@wishy:
What did people reply about usability of the editors FCKeditor and TinyMCE. Depending on where i host my webpage (just for testing reason locally on my machine or for webaccess at my provider (www.networksolutions.de) I get different results. This depends on ...
- which browser I use (IE or Firefox)
- where I host my page (mentioned above: localhost, ...).
- which beta I use (beta2 or beta4)

This is very strange because in beta2 it worked somehow completely different. Little summary:

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beta2 on localhost

EDITOR            BROWSER          CONTENT as WYSIWYG                 IMAGE administration
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TinyMCE           Firefox          works good ;-)                     works good ;-)
TinyMCE           Explorer         works NOT                          --
TinyMCE           Opera            works NOT                          --

HTML Area         Firefox          works                              works
HTML Area         Explorer         works                              works
HTML Area         Opera            works NOT                          --

FCKeditor         Firefox          works                              works NOT
FCKeditor         Explorer         works good ;-)                     works (where are images stored?)
FCKeditor         Opera            works NOT                          --

XStandard         Firefox          works NOT                          --
XStandard         Explorer         works NOT                          --
XStandard         Opera            works NOT                          --


beta4 on online-webserver
most works completely different

EDITOR            BROWSER          CONTENT as WYSIWYG                 IMAGE administration
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TinyMCE           Firefox          works NOT                          --
TinyMCE           Explorer         works good ;-)                     works but images cannot be saved in page

HTML Area         Firefox          works NOT (js error)               --
HTML Area         Explorer         works NOT (js error)               --

FCKeditor         Firefox          works                              works (where are images stored?)
FCKeditor         Explorer         works good ;-)                     works (where are images stored?)

XStandard         Firefox          cannot be selected as WYSIWYG      --
XStandard         Explorer         cannot be selected as WYSIWYG      --

I really appreciate all that great work. For me the only not-working thing is the problem with the editors. Any ideas to solve this?

[Jan Stoll]

So I think its not the editor but the implimentation into the CMS. I think we should go for FCK (if it works of course). Would be great if that would be fixed with the current update.

[Ted]

Yeah, I agree that I think it integrates a little better, even if it's a little slower.  megabob is working as we speak on getting fck a little more stable.  What I'll probably do is release ONE more beta of 0.11 and we can see how well it works.  If it seems ok, we'll switch it for 0.11.  If not, then I'll stick with TinyMCE.

[amygdela]

I'm really sorry to tell you, but how hard can it be? I've implemented FCK in about 5 selfwritten CMS's, and never had problems with it.

Comment out the correct lines in the settings,
create a folder UserFiles in your siteroot
upload the shit, and replace a textarea with javascript... Done!

[Ted]

Don't look at me.  I've been deliberatly staying out of it. 

[megabob3]

I'm really sorry to tell you, but how hard can it be? I've implemented FCK in about 5 selfwritten CMS's, and never had problems with it.

Comment out the correct lines in the settings,
create a folder UserFiles in your siteroot
upload the shit, and replace a textarea with javascript... Done!

Hi

please may you tell some tips/tricks on FCK that you have discovered
particularly on "replace a textarea with javascript"

Pls send me a PM or email on megabob3@yahoo.it

My problem is that this is my first time on trying to change the code of FCK directly.

Bye  

[westis]

Megabob, I suppose you have looked at the docs for how to integrate FCKeditor in a page at http://wiki.fckeditor.net/ ?

[megabob3]

Megabob, I suppose you have looked at the docs for how to integrate FCKeditor in a page at http://wiki.fckeditor.net/ ?

Yep

plus official forum and unofficial

blog and something else....

The biggest problem is what Patricia showed me.

At the moment this version could be usefull for alot of user
http://www.awakening.it/cmsms_dl/module ... _9_7b3.zip

but for user like Patricia it's a big problem not use RELATIVE PATH!!!


I hope to find a solution next week.
I hope also in amygdela
Bye

[Hans]

0.9.7.b3 works great Bob in both the stable version and a recent daily tar with IE 6 and XP with all updates.
Hans

[megabob3]

I had afunny idea 

Maybe tomorrow ......

[tigercat]

Hi there megabob3.
Thanks for the link to 0.9.7b3. This does the job and works good with Firefox.

[iNSiPiD]

Surely the absolute vs relative path problem can be fixed with a bit of trickery? A mask? Regular expression? Gravitational dysfunction??

Come on geniuses!