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 Post subject: Poor google ranking
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:31 am 
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I feel like I am missing something here. I fell in love with CMS Made Simple because it fit the bill for everything I was looking for on a budget, but I am totally dumfounded by my lack of traffic.

I have built a lot of hand-built websites with some success generating keyword rich traffic, but not with my CMSMS site. I put a lot of time creating specific content-rich keywords and meta-data but out of the box I am getting scraps for page views and search engine traffic. I have about four months worth of data and it is laughable.

here is the site http://www/allabout-paint.com

I would appreciate any help or suggestions as to the glaring reason I am failing so hard.

I am not even coming up when you google the name of my site. Pretty crappy.

Thanks guys and gals!

Micah


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 Post subject: Re: Poor google ranking
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:08 pm 
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First of all, your link doesn't work. Second, it's not a CMS Made Simple issue... Google just looks at your keywords and content.. It doesn't care about the CMS you're using. Third, Googling "all about paint" gives you more relevant sites... Those sites are actually all about paint.. Everything you need to know, glossaries, etc.. Not just a paint business that happens to have the name. Google tries to give you results that actually pertain to the topic you're searching for.

Even if you google "allabout paint" (without the quotes), Google thinks you mis-typed and suggests "all about paint"... If you search for "allabout paint", with the quotes, you're right on top! ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Poor google ranking
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:38 pm 
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Welcome to the CMSMS forum, spooledup7

I used some simple SEO tricks (viewtopic.php?t=36912) at my website.
In this (Dutch) forumpost you can see (second image) what happened viewtopic.php?p=268515#p268515
With CMSMS you can create a smashing SEO friendly website, all the basics are there... Just put them in the right place ;)

Grtz. Rolf :)


ps. Oops, wrong SEO link, fixed...

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 Post subject: Re: Poor google ranking
PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:59 am 
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Wishbone, thank you for the time you took to comment.

Rolf, wow! Lot's to do. I appreciate your help and I have been using your suggestions - well the easy ones at least- tonight.

One of the things about CMSMS that confuses me is the specific meta field within the pages. When I add specific meta page descriptions I am still see the global meta tags displayed. Do I need to disable the global tags in order to override them?

I also notice that the News module isn't qualifying as a blog with the rate my page links you listed.

I am also aware of the content - or lack there of - within the site. I basically have a very generic site. I am now trying to get the company owner to follow through with the works of photos and testimonials. I also want him to really take time to blog. Right now there isn't any traffic and no audience for the blog but that's my job no his.

Thanks again for the help.


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 Post subject: Re: Poor google ranking
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:56 pm 
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Not another empty blog. My experience, if the owner doesn't not have the time to create some text for his website, he won't have time to blog.

the idea of Global metatags is that they will be placed on ALL pages.
the are valid for the whole website.

i like to put something like this in the global metadata
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<meta name="keywords" content="{page_attr key="extra1"}"/>
<meta name="description" content="{description}"/>

And then i can use the fields "description" and "Extra Page Attribute 1" to define my keywords and description for every page.


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 Post subject: Re: Poor google ranking
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:04 pm 
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Just for reference... Most search engines don't look at the keywords anymore... they analyze the content in general... and ignore the keywords meta tag.

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 Post subject: Re: Poor google ranking
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:04 am 
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I feel like I have to comment on this. I have been able to generate a significant amount of traffic to "several" CMSMS sites... the trick is that you must understand SEO... first of all, its constantly changing... remember that Google, Bing etc make "$0" dollars off of your SEO efforts, so they keep changing their algorithms several times a year just to make it difficult for webmasters... such as yourself!

I took a quick look at your site, and I can tell you a couple of basic things that you can look into; your sitemap.xml only reflects 7 pages when in fact you have about 30 indexed in Google, its great they are getting indexed, but again, Google wants webmasters to follow stds.
Take a look at building some quality back links (organically), your PR is '0', and your page is not even showing any backlinks or even any significant ranking.
Another thing I noticed is that you have a couple of 404 ERRORS, fix those, do you use GWBT? or any other? CMSMS gives you the option to setup a error page easy!
If you have articles or test pages that were removed, then use the .htaccess file to do a 301 redirect so you don't get penalized for those broken (i.e. error) pages.
The other thing you should pay attention is establishing/automating your social media sites (these help with backlinks some times + traffic, and will become much more important in the future, so get going... specially Google+... who knows how it will (or not) affect your ranking by not having an account).
Anyways, like mentioned above, content is king... but not just any content, good content (useful for your readers... try to engage them + {very important} generate interest in others so they link back to your article, creating some backlinks for your site {i.e.SEO JUICE})

If you are going to manage a blog, that's great... on the CMSMS sites that I work on, we make sure to add news/articles at least once a week.

hope this helps!
cheers


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