CMS Made Simple 2.0 (not 1.7) is in development

calguy1000 · **Posted:** Mon Oct 12, 2009 2:24 pm

Duketown wrote:

Calguy you mentioned the following:

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e) Modules can add 'bulk content operations'
* CGContentUtils will add an 'Advanced Copy' bulk content action to allow you to copy a whole bunch of pages at one time.

Does this mean that CGExtensions becomes a required during, or just after, installation?

Duketown

@Duketown: No, CGContentUtils will still be an addon module, it will not be part of the core. Our philosophy is that the core should be powerful enough that we can allow modules to do advanced features like this. This makes it so that we don't have to include all of that functionality in the core.

@bess: Nope, no multi-language the roadmap has changed significantly.

@geeves: Nope, it means that what we were going to call 1.7 is now being called 2.0, partly because we're dramatically changing the under-belly of the core.

kendo451 · **Posted:** Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:54 am

All that fuss over MicroTiny reminds me of Joel Spolskey's perspective on the difference between Microsoft Culture and Linux Culture.

Microsoft Culture, he says, "writes software for the end user", and usually ends up slick on the front, but buggy and bloated on the back.

Linux Culture writes software for other programmers, which tends to be more useful and modular for other coders to reuse, but doesn't have the "slick factor" on the final product.

I think it is the job of we integrators and designers to take the CMSMS engine and add the "slick" front-end for our clients.

TinyMCE is totally configurable. If you don't like what comes with the package, quit crying and roll your own.

Kudos to the dev team who continue to work on this awesome project. I have no idea how you are supported, but I wish I could contribute more to the effort.

Ken

jce76350 · **Posted:** Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:42 am

hi,

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Microsoft Culture, he says, "writes software for the end user"

"writes software to earn more money"

Sonya · **Posted:** Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:24 pm

calguy1000 wrote:

Oh yeah, one more thing.... for our international users.

The NLS stuff in CMS 1.7 has been written and a couple of tags introduced that will make translation easier:

a) {set_language lang='xx_XX'}
.....

b){set_language_auto allow='fr_FR,de_de,nl_NL'}
(optional params are: 'sticky=1' and 'use_sticky=1'}
.....

Is it something that will replace the functionality of the module Babel http://dev.cmsmadesimple.org/projects/babel ? Or is it something completely different?

clerk · **Joined:** Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:17 am **Posts:** 3

looking forward

seensite · **Joined:** Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:36 pm **Posts:** 173

Sonya wrote:

calguy1000 wrote:

Oh yeah, one more thing.... for our international users.

The NLS stuff in CMS 1.7 has been written and a couple of tags introduced that will make translation easier:

a) {set_language lang='xx_XX'}
.....

b){set_language_auto allow='fr_FR,de_de,nl_NL'}
(optional params are: 'sticky=1' and 'use_sticky=1'}
.....

Is it something that will replace the functionality of the module Babel http://dev.cmsmadesimple.org/projects/babel ? Or is it something completely different?

calguy1000 wrote:

To All:
Due to a number of factors, the CMSMS development team has decided to discontinue any direct association to the CMSMS-MLE fork on the cmsmadesimple.org website, This will mean that the forum for questions relating to the MLE fork will be closed or disabled by the end of January, 2010, and that no further issues related to the MLE fork would be entertained on cmsmadesimple.org

Do you mean that CMS Made Simple core will handle multi languages natively ?

Will it be possible to migrate from CMSMS-MLE to CMSMS 1.7 or further version ?

I am looking forward to run this 1.7 version, my customer's sites running mle fork are concerned to know if their CMSMS will possibly continue to be updated.

Best regards

calguy1000 · **Posted:** Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:25 pm

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Do you mean that CMS Made Simple core will handle multi languages natively ?

No.

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Will it be possible to migrate from CMSMS-MLE to CMSMS 1.7 or further version ?

No.

clerk · **Joined:** Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:17 am **Posts:** 3

quickly,coming soon>

seensite · **Joined:** Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:36 pm **Posts:** 173

calguy1000 wrote:

Quote:

Do you mean that CMS Made Simple core will handle multi languages natively ?

No.

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Will it be possible to migrate from CMSMS-MLE to CMSMS 1.7 or further version ?

No.

I am not sure that keeping international users out of CMSMS by avoiding multilanguage function is very good for CMSMS. It seems that (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1256641 ... TopStories) non-roman languages like chinese or arab will soon have the opportunity to have their domain names in their letters. The CMS they'll choose will presumably support full international and multilanguage support.

There are not only big societies who needs multilanguage website, many europeen countries have more than one language and their small or medium societies do need multilanguage websites.

I think keeping CMSMS mono-language would be a weakness for the excellent tool it is at the moment.

Peciura · **Posted:** Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:25 am

seensite: about mle-fork roadmap http://forum.cmsmadesimple.org/index.ph ... #msg182680

Tomek · **Joined:** Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:29 pm **Posts:** 159

Sonya wrote:

calguy1000 wrote:

Oh yeah, one more thing.... for our international users.

The NLS stuff in CMS 1.7 has been written and a couple of tags introduced that will make translation easier:

a) {set_language lang='xx_XX'}
.....

b){set_language_auto allow='fr_FR,de_de,nl_NL'}
(optional params are: 'sticky=1' and 'use_sticky=1'}
.....

Is it something that will replace the functionality of the module Babel http://dev.cmsmadesimple.org/projects/babel ? Or is it something completely different?

same question here : is it different ?

Connie · **Posted:** Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:00 am

I had the impression that Multi-Language-Functionality will be a a core function of CMSMS 2.0

If not you will miss a big chance! American-based developers please note that the world is not MONOLINGUAL and that we are really in need of that functionality.

I have some projects in the pipeline which NEED this and I tried to avoid MLE-Fork (please forgive me but it sounds so difficult to use it and update CMSMS MLE), telling my clients "it will be... soon..."

So, this is bad to hear

seensite · **Joined:** Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:36 pm **Posts:** 173

Connie wrote:

I had the impression that Multi-Language-Functionality will be a a core function of CMSMS 2.0

Connie, I had the same impression and I think it is correct - thought in a misty futur : Pecuria thank you for pointing me to Alby's post

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MY final interest (and here I will conclude this project) will be porting from CMSMS MLE 1.X to CMSMS 2.X multilanguage (and I hope by the end of 2010)

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An alternative if you want to avoid the MLE fork is to wait untill the end of 2010 or use Babel module http://dev.cmsmadesimple.org/project/files/729.

tyman00 · **Posted:** Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:03 pm

Multi-Lang is on the proposed roadmap but will not be an initial feature of 2.0. While there is no date set it could be quite some time till something starts arising. Currently the thoughts are seeing some multi-lang functionality in v2.2 but that could change.

We would absolutely love to release 2.0 with every feature that we want to include... but as shown in the past v2.0 just won't happen. It will continually be in development and take forever to get into beta and be released. With this process we can get a good base started with 2.0 where it will be tested heavily before and after release. Any necessary changes will be made and 2.x will progressively move forward adding features much like 1.x did

It is known many of you have been waiting (and waiting) for native Multi-lang functionality. It will come, but at the moment the changes coming for 2.0 are going to be useful for the very high majority of it's users and not a subset of the group. Essentially it will be better for everyone to start off with and then we can start targeting features that are going to be only used by smaller groups.

Andiministrator · **Posted:** Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:32 pm

That means, an Official Multilingual Support of CMSms will come not earlier than 2011, right?
If so, I need to switch my next planned projects to another CMS like Drupal.

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