CMSMS 2.0 (say what now?!)

calguy1000 · **Posted:** Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:51 pm

2.0 has swung back into active development

- Ted has done alot of api work lately:
- The permissions model has been completely re-worked there are just 13 default permissions now
- I've re-written the user and group management stuff (it's now a module)
- There are alot of new smarty plugins and others have been tweaked
- Sportman is leading RichardoP and Cyruse in working on a much improved admin theme and a
document for styling admin forms

2.0 is virtually a rewrite... there isn't a single thing that hasn't been touched or won't be touched in this release.

So work is going forward.... but there is still alot to do, so there is no way we can nail down a date yet.

moorezilla · **Posted:** Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:09 pm

Unsolicited involuntary woot ----> WOOT!

Can't wait for 2.0!

Ted · **Posted:** Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:52 pm

I second said wooting. WOOT!

Ok, back to work...

Blue_Guru · **Posted:** Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:27 pm

Do you know by now if there will be a more or less "easy" way to upgrade from an existing 1.2x site ?

And even more important, how about module compatibility?

The reason of my question is at the moment I'm planning to develop a site which also would require the development of a number of own custom specific modules. Will they be mostly compatible to 2.0 or will there be major changes regarding modules working for 1.2x ?

cubix · **Posted:** Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:06 am

every few weeks, i download that svn.. just to see how things are going.

so with all that great 2.0 dev work going on, i was wondering if the new version will have language packs? whereas you can download all the languages for the core or applicable modules that you have installed.

where all my sites are english speaking, i dont really see a point for having all those extra language files.

anyway, keep up the great work! cant wait for the beta

cyberman · **Posted:** Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:14 pm

Blue_Guru wrote:

Do you know by now if there will be a more or less "easy" way to upgrade from an existing 1.2x site ?

Yes, there will be a way to upgrade a "default" CMSms install (with default supplied modules).

Quote:

And even more important, how about module compatibility?

Current modules from 1.2.4 wount be compatible with V 2. Not sure if there will come a "compatibility mode".

cyberman · **Posted:** Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:15 pm

cubix wrote:

so with all that great 2.0 dev work going on, i was wondering if the new version will have language packs?

V 2 will get a language manager module ...

Vin · **Joined:** Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:54 pm **Posts:** 267

Blue_Guru wrote:

And even more important, how about module compatibility?

The reason of my question is at the moment I'm planning to develop a site which also would require the development of a number of own custom specific modules. Will they be mostly compatible to 2.0 or will there be major changes regarding modules working for 1.2x ?

This has already been mentioned, and I think the last comment on that was that modules would be compatible, just wouldn't use the full potential of new V2 API. But I'm not involved in development of cmsms, so I can't say whether this still applies.

Ted · **Posted:** Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:43 pm

(for some reason, I didn't hit submit when I replied earlier today... do-over)

Blue_Guru wrote:

Do you know by now if there will be a more or less "easy" way to upgrade from an existing 1.2x site ?

And even more important, how about module compatibility?

The reason of my question is at the moment I'm planning to develop a site which also would require the development of a number of own custom specific modules. Will they be mostly compatible to 2.0 or will there be major changes regarding modules working for 1.2x ?

There will be an upgrade script. It will, however, concentrate on upgrading the content of the site to work in the new schema, and probably throw out most things that deal with users, groups and permissions.. The changes to those things are just too vast to even try to come up with a solution that will please everyone.

We're talking about making a module compatibility layer. But, things that stray too far from the API and hit the core directly will probably have issues. Not to mention any modules using features we're not going to really support anymore. We'll look more into that after 2.0 is in beta mode.

cubix wrote:

every few weeks, i download that svn.. just to see how things are going.

so with all that great 2.0 dev work going on, i was wondering if the new version will have language packs? whereas you can download all the languages for the core or applicable modules that you have installed.

where all my sites are english speaking, i dont really see a point for having all those extra language files.

anyway, keep up the great work! cant wait for the beta

This is what I'm working on right now. The main idea is that the English strings will go directly in the code (so no english language files) and then translations for those full strings. They'll be handled through a new translation center rewrite and have a translation center (like module manager) that will allow downloading up-to-date language files as they're available. The language files in the default installation won't happen anymore, so it should make the download smaller.

The details are still a bit sketchy, but I'll know more soon as I continue playing with it.

moorezilla · **Posted:** Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:09 pm

In terms of users in frontendusers, do you think there will be a way to preserve these users through the upgrade, or a way to export the users from the old frontendusers and then import them into the new frontendusers... or whatever replaces frontendusers? Or are you just talking about users in the base install of cmsms? I guess I'm a little confused on the users being dumped.

Ted · **Posted:** Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:42 pm

That's definitely going to be a separate issue for calguy to look into. Since the concept of FEU is going to be in the core now, then I guess that situation is going to arise for people.

But, when I meant users, I meant it from what comes with the core now. People who can log into the admin panel and change content/etc.

leifnicholz · **Posted:** Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:54 pm

Wee!! Can't wait for 2.0!!! Can any of the devs give at least a rough date on when this can possibly come out?

SimonSchaufi · **Posted:** Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:32 pm

will CMSms 2.0 also come out with a new default frontend layout? That would be really great!

Pierre M. · **Posted:** Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:28 pm

SimonSchaufi wrote:

will CMSms 2.0 also come out with a new default frontend layout? That would be really great!

http://themes.cmsmadesimple.org/Share_a_Theme.html is a way to participate on this "new default frontend layout".
CMSms converted webDesigners welcome !-)

Pierre M.

EGS · **Joined:** Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:25 am **Posts:** 66

Please make it backwards-compatible:
http://forum.cmsmadesimple.org/index.ph ... #msg113356

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